Five ways to improve your motovlogs!

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dexterbiker

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timtom123 said:
I am here for the .gif's of cute puppies! I have seen them, i have expressed my feelings for them, my life is now complete. Do what you will with this thread now.


Ha ha i totally agree! might be a better idea for a Mod to either close thread or just stop further posts
 

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Well... one of the most subscribed motovloggers on Youtube has made a trademark of spending hours putting his gloves on at the beginning of almost every video of his. RebelYell91.

The late Svengalie would often a/ not talk at all in a few of his videos and these weren't the shortest ones and b/ do many, many videos off bike and c/ breathe very, very, very heavily when crashing (often) or dirtbiking (even more often). And he, again, was one of the most subscribed motovloggers on YT.

Hell even Mordeth13 didn't have a decent HD camera up until a few years ago.

I don't think there are any rules to motovlogging.

I think the above mentioned rules are good for the bog-standard motovlogger to follow - they seriously are stuff that WILL put viewers off - but they will only get you to a certain point, and not much further. What makes the REAL difference is the rider's personality and his creativity with how he shows it.

To the question: "do I actually want more?", the simple answer to that is that if you haven't got more already - you probably won't ever. And if you try too hard, you'll get caught a/buying subs b/buying views. Only the genuinely interesting guys get real community feedback. Not talking about views or subs. Community feedback.
 

dexterbiker

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ParisianZee said:
Well... one of the most subscribed motovloggers on Youtube has made a trademark of spending hours putting his gloves on at the beginning of almost every video of his. RebelYell91.

The late Svengalie would often a/ not talk at all in a few of his videos and these weren't the shortest ones and b/ do many, many videos off bike and c/ breathe very, very, very heavily when crashing (often) or dirtbiking (even more often). And he, again, was one of the most subscribed motovloggers on YT.

Hell even Mordeth13 didn't have a decent HD camera up until a few years ago.

I don't think there are any rules to motovlogging.

I think the above mentioned rules are good for the bog-standard motovlogger to follow - they seriously are stuff that WILL put viewers off - but they will only get you to a certain point, and not much further. What makes the REAL difference is the rider's personality and his creativity with how he shows it.

To the question: "do I actually want more?", the simple answer to that is that if you haven't got more already - you probably won't ever. And if you try too hard, you'll get caught a/buying subs b/buying views. Only the genuinely interesting guys get real community feedback. Not talking about views or subs. Community feedback.


Very well put!
 

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ParisianZee said:
I don't think there are any rules to motovlogging.

I think the above mentioned rules are good for the bog-standard motovlogger to follow - they seriously are stuff that WILL put viewers off - but they will only get you to a certain point, and not much further. What makes the REAL difference is the rider's personality and his creativity with how he shows it.

To the question: "do I actually want more?", the simple answer to that is that if you haven't got more already - you probably won't ever. And if you try too hard, you'll get caught a/buying subs b/buying views. Only the genuinely interesting guys get real community feedback. Not talking about views or subs. Community feedback.

I've been vlogging for almost 6 years now, put up damn close to 400 videos, and everything he just said is 100% true. In all honesty you're never going to see 'everyone' agree on anything. Trying to say "these are essential to making a video everyone will want to see" is pointless, you can never be right with a statement like that.

What makes a popular motovlogger is being creative with things, and being someone who people want to listen to or watch. A lot of the time it doesn't even matter what you do in the video as a fair number of your viewers aren't even watching it. Instead many people run the video minimized and just listen to what's being said. Even I do it sometimes.

4 and 5 years ago I was a part of a much different community, one that was a lot smaller, and a LOT more tight nit. Mordeth was there while he was banned from YT, he was the most watched person in the group by far. Then there was Josh, followed by me. I was #3 for several years. That's changed now. These days I feel good when a video gets 200 views and 30 comments. 3 years ago I would get 500-1000 views, and hundreds of comments. What changed? Simple, I got boring. I lost most of my creative drive and then watched as the view counts plummeted. It had nothing to do when whether I was breathing heavily (my nose is fucked, it always sounds like I'm out of breath,) and it had nothing to do with whether or not I was putting my gloves on in the video.

It's all about whether or not people think you're interesting, or entertaining, and trying to lump the billions of YT viewers into one pot quite simply isn't going to work.
 

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ParisianZee said:
I don't think there are any rules to motovlogging.

I think the above mentioned rules are good for the bog-standard motovlogger to follow - they seriously are stuff that WILL put viewers off - but they will only get you to a certain point, and not much further. What makes the REAL difference is the rider's personality and his creativity with how he shows it.

To the question: "do I actually want more?", the simple answer to that is that if you haven't got more already - you probably won't ever. And if you try too hard, you'll get caught a/buying subs b/buying views. Only the genuinely interesting guys get real community feedback. Not talking about views or subs. Community feedback.

This is what I said, except I guess I was just more hostile about it. But that's just me, if I didn't say things the way I wanted them to be said I wouldn't be Death Metal Moto.
 

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DeathMetalMoto said:
This is what I said, except I guess I was just more hostile about it. But that's just me, if I didn't say things the way I wanted them to be said I wouldn't be Death Metal Moto.

Do you change the colour of your text based on your mood? Green is much less hostile than red.
 

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Friz said:
DeathMetalMoto said:
This is what I said, except I guess I was just more hostile about it. But that's just me, if I didn't say things the way I wanted them to be said I wouldn't be Death Metal Moto.

Do you change the colour of your text based on your mood? Green is much less hostile than red.

Like a mood Ring :D
 

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dexterbiker said:
Friz said:
DeathMetalMoto said:
This is what I said, except I guess I was just more hostile about it. But that's just me, if I didn't say things the way I wanted them to be said I wouldn't be Death Metal Moto.

Do you change the colour of your text based on your mood? Green is much less hostile than red.

Like a mood Ring :D
"Mood Text" that would be cool, notices how you've written the post then changes the colour to suit the mood it thinks your in!
 

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Trinith said:
What makes a popular motovlogger is being creative with things, and being someone who people want to listen to or watch. A lot of the time it doesn't even matter what you do in the video as a fair number of your viewers aren't even watching it. Instead many people run the video minimized and just listen to what's being said. Even I do it sometimes.

Depends on the motovlogger ofcourse.
I haven't done that, but i can understand that some people do that with some vloggers, thinking of spicy, b46 or something alike.

But with vloggers like Mototrippin and AB+ the envirment and what they are doing is sometimes what makes the vlog.
 

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I have decided that I'm not going to motovlog.

I'm just uploading the odd clip of me doing things on motorbikes here and there.

This decision largely based on the fact that my new Drift 720 doesn't seem to accept an external mic. :?
 

Trinith

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Meifesto said:
Depends on the motovlogger ofcourse.
I haven't done that, but i can understand that some people do that with some vloggers, thinking of spicy, b46 or something alike.

But with vloggers like Mototrippin and AB+ the envirment and what they are doing is sometimes what makes the vlog.

I disagree. If a viewer just wants to listen, that's what they're going to do. If the videos action/scenery is what makes it a good video then maybe it won't be watched. That's my point, not everyone thinks the same way. I personally don't care about the scenery all that much, so it's not going to get me to watch a video.
 

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I follow one rule while making mine....

If I'm having fun making the vlog I'm sure someone will have watching/listening to it.

Sure it may not be in the 1000s or even 100s but if your after than then just stick a pair of boobs in your vlog, simple.
 

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Sure it may not be in the 1000s or even 100s but if your after than then just stick a pair of boobs in your vlog, simple.

I wonder if the liberal use of porn tags at the end of your tag stream still works. 4 or 5 of those used to be good for a fair number of extra views.
 

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Trinith said:
thunderous71 said:
Sure it may not be in the 1000s or even 100s but if your after than then just stick a pair of boobs in your vlog, simple.

I wonder if the liberal use of porn tags at the end of your tag stream still works. 4 or 5 of those used to be good for a fair number of extra views.

You'll get a lot of views that way but you wont get viewer retention and your video and even your channel will actually rank lower because of it. It used to be easy to cheat the system. It's a lot harder now that Youtube has caught on to the tricks people use.

Use honest tags. Put the most relevant ones first. The tags actually have ranks too and the first few rank higher than the last few.
 

Trinith

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That's pretty much what I figured now that things work a little differently.
 
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