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HippoDrone

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If I understand correctly in slow motion mode video is recorded at x2, x4, or x8 of the normal frame rate but saved at normal frame rate (30 fps) for playback which results in a slow motion video. You can find out all you need on line.
I can't find any information regarding the bitrate of the video from google, not even in the reviews etc, that was why I asked. If you have a video shot by it on your computer, you can check its properties by right clicking on the file and it'll have the biterate in one of the sub tabs :)
 
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I havent done any slow motion, normaly I film at 1080 at 30 fps on my last "Vlog #12 Bibury ride out" the file says 767kbs !! Whatever that is :), hope that helps? Chris
 

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I can't find any information regarding the bitrate of the video from google, not even in the reviews etc, that was why I asked. If you have a video shot by it on your computer, you can check its properties by right clicking on the file and it'll have the biterate in one of the sub tabs :)
That biterate I just posted was from an edited file so had been through Resolve, the actual file from the bandit says 64Kbs, and the cylinder head video is shot on a Nikon D5500 and those files are 1535Kbs. Chris
 

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I'm not sure your reference to slow motion, was that to me or someone else's comment? :)

64Kbps is quite low, the current GoPro 8 does 1080/60 at 10x that bitrate, was that a typo? Thanks for looking for me though Chris, appreciated :)

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I'm not sure your reference to slow motion, was that to me or someone else's comment? :)

64Kbps is quite low, the current GoPro 8 does 1080/60 at 10x that bitrate, was that a typo? Thanks for looking for me though Chris, appreciated :)

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It was for you and I was looking at the Audio Biterate Duhh!! the video is 24896Kps at 30 fps
 

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Is why I upscale my 1080 to 4k, @R-Rated does the same, gets us the VP9 codec which even if you only watch the video at 1080 on YT it still looks better than it would if you uploaded at 1080 as you get the AVC codec which is a joke!
Theres a lot I need to learn, my vids are rendered using DaVinci resolve 16 with H.264 codec but can use DNxHD or GoPro Cine Form, neither of which I have a clue about, BUT would like better video quality if it was only a matter of using a diferant codec. Any suggestions would be great. Chris
 

HippoDrone

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Theres a lot I need to learn, my vids are rendered using DaVinci resolve 16 with H.264 codec but can use DNxHD or GoPro Cine Form, neither of which I have a clue about, BUT would like better video quality if it was only a matter of using a different codec. Any suggestions would be great. Chris
When you render your 1080/60 footage on your PC after editing it, just change the resolution to 4k and set the bitrate to the bitrate of your raw video! :) Try a test with doing that. It won't show on YT at 4K for a while, so always worth scheduling the go live time to allow for that to render fully. I tend to upload the day before I want them to go live. I currently render to MP4 file type too as I think YouTube prefers that.
 

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That s appt of bitrate talk. I won't pretend to understand it but I think a related question is: should I go.for 1080/60 or 4k/30 for video? At what point does it make sense to scale down. Resolution to benefit from frame rate?

Also, just now figuring this out, what software is good for Windows? I don't have a computer at the moment, let alone the money for an apple. I've got 3 young kids, not money.

Also, what does 360 video editing? Do the cameras come with software you can fumble through to get something or do you need an expensive program and addin?
 
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WheelyPerd

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That s appt of bitrate talk. I won't pretend to understand it but I think a related question is: should I go.for 1080/60 or 4k/30 for video? At what point does it make sense to scale down. Resolution to benefit from frame rate?
Bitrate is the "quality" of the picture, regardless of resolution. For most Motovlogs 1080 is just fine, however if you can afford it (in terms of data and editing power) might as well upload in 4k.

Also, just now figuring this out, what software is good for Windows? I don't have a computer at the moment, let alone the money for an apple. I've got 3 young kids, not money.
You could edit on a mobile device, if thats an option to you. There are a few free video editing programs, search the forums, it comes up every few months. Depends how advanced you want.

Also, what does 360 video editing? Do the cameras come with software you can fumble through to get something or do you need an expensive program and addin?
Most 360 cameras come with software to edit and help. Some video editors do support 360 editing, but normally they are paid for.
 

HippoDrone

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That s appt of bitrate talk. I won't pretend to understand it but I think a related question is: should I go.for 1080/60 or 4k/30 for video? At what point does it make sense to scale down. Resolution to benefit from frame rate?

Also, just now figuring this out, what software is good for Windows? I don't have a computer at the moment, let alone the money for an apple. I've got 3 young kids, not money.

Also, what does 360 video editing? Do the cameras come with software you can fumble through to get something or do you need an expensive program and addin?
For tarmac riding on a motorbike, I'd always suggest 60fps, if in low light then drop down to 30fps. 1080 is absolutely fine, I upscale in editing to stop YouTube compressing it when I put it onto my channel, it is a trick, it isn't really 4k. I record 90% of my videos at 1080, and all my road/track stuff at 60fps, the dirt or night I drop to 30fps, but still stick with the 1080.
For Windows, I use Filmora Wondershare, it is simple to use and has almost all you will need from a video editor, and it isn't too expensive either.
Most 360 cameras are designed to be edited on a mobile phone, it is easier to do so but it does mean you need a decent spec'd phone, each camera will specify the minimum requirements. as for editing the 360 stuff on PC, currently only Insta360 have an editor for their cameras. GoPro are working on one, but it'll be a few steps behind the Insta360 software I imagine.
Adobe Premiere Pro or whatever it is called can do 360 edits, but it is expensive and will grind a low spec PC to a painfully slow pace to edit a 5.7k 360 video.

Like I said earlier, I edit my 360 footage on my phone mostly, then transfer that edited video onto my PC to mix it with my other camera footage and audio.
 
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Skant153

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I saw some knockoff brand 360 cameras, a xiaomi one but I dunno if that has its own app, and even then it's probably terrible. I saw a Samsung 360, anyone have experience with that? None of these 360 cameras go with the 'cheap' part of the title, lol
 

HRMV

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I use the TomTom Bandit action camera, discontinued now so you can get them fairly cheap, I got 2 for £30 and £50. There waterproof with mic connection at back but you do need the mic lead. They also have about 3 hours battery life.
I have used the Bandit cam since it came out and must admit for the money I paid I love it. Havnt seen any going for that cheap even though discontinued.

Battery life is ace, footage I think is up there with the best.

What are the specs on that?
Think I have the manual somewhere if your wanting the published details.
 
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I have used the Bandit cam since it came out and must admit for the money I paid I love it. Havnt seen any going for that cheap even though discontinued.

Battery life is ace, footage I think is up there with the best.



Think I have the manual somewhere if your wanting the published details.
If you take a look at my site you'll see all the work I did on getting the audio as good as it was going to get with TomTom. You can also run power in with audio if you modify the power lead. It was the record time, battery life and inherant waterproofness that attracted me as well and if you keep a search open on Ebay they come up around £50 every so often. :)
 
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HRMV

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If you take a look at my site you'll see all the work I did on getting the audio as good as it was going to get with TomTom. You can also run power in with audio if you modify the power lead. It was the record time, battery life and inherant waterproofness that attracted me as well and if you keep a search open on Ebay they come up around £50 every so often. :)
Did you modify yours for audio and power? If so will need to check your vid for this for sure.
 

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Lol you have lost me already.
Best not go there then, the wires are very small and tricky to solder ( I was an electronics engineer among other things) annd as I said you would then need a lead going from the bike or other power source which would probably need dangaling wires which is why I havent bothered, I just did it to find out if you could as a few people on the TomTom Bandit forum wanted to know.
But nice to come upon a fellow Bandit user I think there great.
 

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