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TheMotoXP

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I am getting rather angry at myself for not being able to figure out a good spot to put my microphone in my helmet. I currently have it inbetween the right cheek pad and the shell. When I am talking, however, the microphone either picks up the wind noise and drowns out my voice or picks up too much voice to the point where it is annoying. I cant seem to find the perfect place to put it. I am listening to other people's videos and their voice:engine noise/ wind seems fine. Is there something I can do while editing or do I need to find a new place to mount the mic? I have an Icon Alliance Speedmetal helmet size Medium just for reference. Any input would be appreciated.
 
What kind of mic is it? Does it have a windscreen? Have you tried experimenting with different types of screens? Real ones vs cut up sponges or foam? I've used paper towels as a last resort before. Worked better than expected, but obviously won't last very long. :)
 
TheMotoXP said:
I am getting rather angry at myself for not being able to figure out a good spot to put my microphone in my helmet. I currently have it inbetween the right cheek pad and the shell. When I am talking, however, the microphone either picks up the wind noise and drowns out my voice or picks up too much voice to the point where it is annoying. I cant seem to find the perfect place to put it. I am listening to other people's videos and their voice:engine noise/ wind seems fine. Is there something I can do while editing or do I need to find a new place to mount the mic? I have an Icon Alliance Speedmetal helmet size Medium just for reference. Any input would be appreciated.

Lapel mic works really well. You can make your own windscreen out of fake fur. A lot of guys have luck putting it on the chin screen. Your biggest noise problems are going to be the wind buffeting on the outside of the helmet and your voice making the mic clip. Don't yell and try and insulate the mic from the OUTSIDE wind noise, not the wind that's making it inside your helmet. Put some sort of dampener behind it. I've found a bra insert works the best re: Accidental Broadcast.

Ask these guys. I spent months getting my sound setup right. You've just got to trial and error until you come right. First thing I'd do is invest in a good lapel mic.
 
I would also recommend looking into your editing program's EQ settings. I use FCPX and I use the Voice Enhance EQ curve and also reduce the background noise by 20%.
 
TheMotoXP said:
I am getting rather angry at myself for not being able to figure out a good spot to put my microphone in my helmet. I currently have it inbetween the right cheek pad and the shell. When I am talking, however, the microphone either picks up the wind noise and drowns out my voice or picks up too much voice to the point where it is annoying. I cant seem to find the perfect place to put it. I am listening to other people's videos and their voice:engine noise/ wind seems fine. Is there something I can do while editing or do I need to find a new place to mount the mic? I have an Icon Alliance Speedmetal helmet size Medium just for reference. Any input would be appreciated.


I posted this on my other channel,

this is what your talking about?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYucpskMvW0[/youtube]
 
thanks for all the tips.. I am running the standard drift ghost mic that I bought from Drift when I got the camera online. Any suggestions on a good lapel mic that isnt crazy expensive? I still have a few more spots to try the mic before I discard this mic. I am using the black noise dampener that came with the mic. I am going to try cutting a small hole in my cheek pad and putting the mic inside the cheek pad if I cannot find another place to put it that sounds decent.
 
TheMotoXP said:
thanks for all the tips.. I am running the standard drift ghost mic that I bought from Drift when I got the camera online. Any suggestions on a good lapel mic that isnt crazy expensive? I still have a few more spots to try the mic before I discard this mic. I am using the black noise dampener that came with the mic. I am going to try cutting a small hole in my cheek pad and putting the mic inside the cheek pad if I cannot find another place to put it that sounds decent.

Make a wind screen and buy an audio technica 3350. Putting it inside your cheek pad will arguably make it worse as it'll be closer to the outside of the helmet.
 
That's good quality audio. I mean you're on a motorcycle with the visor up, no big windscreen, little or no audio clipping. I don't hear a problem.
 
I bought this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TINY-TIE-...E-/270976331390?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

They make it in several lenghts of cabling, but I asked specifically for some 10 cms.
In the end, they gave me the mic with about 8 cms of cable, which means I got NO extra wire inside the helmet.
I then use either an 3.5mm extension cable (to connect to the external recorder) or connect it to the gopro with the usb-to-3.5mm adapter.

The mic is of great quality, and you can see (hear) the quality in my channel (follow the link in my profile). The latest video(s) are with this mic and the gopro recording.

As for placement, in my AGV k3, I got it in FRONT of the left cheekpad - front as in towards the front of the helmet. Its on the left side of the chinbar, next to where the cheekpad begins. Its high up, about 0.5cms below the visor, so that it gets no wind noise from below the helmet, as it is shielded from the air coming into the helmet from there.
The end results is that it is recording exactly what I hear - including the windnoise that I can hear from inside the helmet.
Obviously its not gonna work at 140kph+, but up to 120 it still works well enough.

Mike is sensitive enough to hear the indicators (or rather, the relay) blinking.
 
In the settings, what level do you have the microphone sensitivity at?

If you have your level at 3 bars and your visor down, it will come out really bad. Make sure your mic level is on one bar.
 
Well, you'll have to spend a whole couple of seconds lining up audio; but what about something made for the job? Noise cancellation on these modern bluetooth setups is wonderful. No monkeying around with the mic I just put it in. It's right there in front of my lips.

Now, full disclaimer I didn't pay for it. I do reviews for Shark periodically on their youtube channel. But, I don't work for them and I don't get anything out of you buying it. So check it out. (Or a Scala rider or a Chatterbox or whatever; point is, they work great)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znoScuuooTE

Skip to 4:47. 80mph, visor open, on a cruiser with loud pipes. And I spent a whole minute installing it. No extra padding over it. It's as-is out of the box. Bluetoothed to my iPhone, record the audio. At the beginning of each 'shoot' I clap 5 times and in my editing software I just line up those 5 'peaks' and I'm done.

EDIT: By the way, it IS quiet. And at first I thought, oh, well this one is quiet! But then I realized in post I had accidentally defeated the audio some. I had turned the audio source from the Drift HD to 0, and accidentally dropped the audio from the BT down to about 75~80. So it actually can be a bit louder than that.
 
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