how to deal with a crash

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NastyEvilNinja said:
Drobium77 said:
The weirdest fear/phobia thati've developed over the past few years is that i have a fear of travelling in cars!??

I don't like being a passenger in cars, either. I suppose I'm ok with being pootled around, but if the drivers is getting a bit of a move on, I don't like that at all.

Which may well be a slight problem in a months time! I'm taking my ARDS National B race license test, and part of that is being driven around Silverstone by some mentalist instructor showing me what to do! :?

Im the same, the only people I feel comfortable driving is my dad and grandad. Anyone else makes me nervous as hell. I normally try and push imaginary brake/accelerators.
 
Chessecake94 said:
NastyEvilNinja said:
Drobium77 said:
The weirdest fear/phobia thati've developed over the past few years is that i have a fear of travelling in cars!??

I don't like being a passenger in cars, either. I suppose I'm ok with being pootled around, but if the drivers is getting a bit of a move on, I don't like that at all.

Which may well be a slight problem in a months time! I'm taking my ARDS National B race license test, and part of that is being driven around Silverstone by some mentalist instructor showing me what to do! :?

Im the same, the only people I feel comfortable driving is my dad and grandad. Anyone else makes me nervous as hell. I normally try and push imaginary brake/accelerators.
get them to buy a Citroen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13446522
 
My friend stacked it in some dirt just yesterday. He'd been riding 4 days and I took him to a quite stretch of country lane and a practically abandoned round-a-bout so he could get some practice in. Just on the way up to the round-a-bout he got a poor read on a corner and was riding outside his limits trying to keep up with me. He took the corner wide and went down in the dirt after a short bit of offroading.

At the time he was incredibly annoyed, we picked his bike up and there were very minor scratches on it and he chilled down a bit. I was cracking jokes to try and cheer him up and saying everything was okay. A few hours after, however, reality hit me like a train. I felt like I was entirely to blame.

I had taken him to an area he didn't know, I was riding as hard as I could and he was just trying to keep up with me. If I wasn't riding as hard as I possibly could, then he more than likely wouldn't of made a mess of the corner. I found this incredibly difficult to cope with. I took the blame entirely as my own, and to see his parent's faces after he'd been riding only 4 days, but spent 2 years trying to convince them to let him have a bike, it really dug deep. I just didn't know how to cope.

This all happened yesterday, even now I feel like absolute crap over it. He's fine, scratched his knees up with a minor bit of road rash. But I have an emotional weight hanging heavily on my mind. That's what is truly the worst part about bike crashes. It's not the physical injury that he suffered, but the emotional anxiety and anguish it causes the rider and those riding with him.
 
My recent offroad wipeout...
Lying on the ground breathless I stared at my phone contemplating calling 911. Could I even explain where I am? Once I caught my breath I got up , winded and nursing cracked ribs. I started filming. "Shit why wasn't I filming when this happened!?" (Shouldn't have been a priority thought but it was there.)
When I felt well enough to focus on my bike, the smell of leaking gasoline was strong. I attempted to lift the bike but the pain was too immense to lift it. I tried again and couldn't bear the pain. I knew it was my only way out so my 3rd try would be my final attempt and one of the most painful things I've ever had to force myself through. This video says the rest...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC5fsg1dzT0[/youtube]
I wasn't filming because I was 'taking it easy'. I just proved to myself that a wipeout can happen at anytime.
 
Carkeh said:
My friend stacked it in some dirt just yesterday. He'd been riding 4 days and I took him to a quite stretch of country lane and a practically abandoned round-a-bout so he could get some practice in. Just on the way up to the round-a-bout he got a poor read on a corner and was riding outside his limits trying to keep up with me. He took the corner wide and went down in the dirt after a short bit of offroading.

At the time he was incredibly annoyed, we picked his bike up and there were very minor scratches on it and he chilled down a bit. I was cracking jokes to try and cheer him up and saying everything was okay. A few hours after, however, reality hit me like a train. I felt like I was entirely to blame.

I had taken him to an area he didn't know, I was riding as hard as I could and he was just trying to keep up with me. If I wasn't riding as hard as I possibly could, then he more than likely wouldn't of made a mess of the corner. I found this incredibly difficult to cope with. I took the blame entirely as my own, and to see his parent's faces after he'd been riding only 4 days, but spent 2 years trying to convince them to let him have a bike, it really dug deep. I just didn't know how to cope.

This all happened yesterday, even now I feel like absolute crap over it. He's fine, scratched his knees up with a minor bit of road rash. But I have an emotional weight hanging heavily on my mind. That's what is truly the worst part about bike crashes. It's not the physical injury that he suffered, but the emotional anxiety and anguish it causes the rider and those riding with him.
Try not to be so hard on yourself mate :-)
It's not as if you went out purposely to get him hurt or anything, sometimes you can just forget that there's a less experienced ride in your group and you give it beans whilst they will naturally try to keep up.
We all know as well when we are getting out of our comfort zone, so he has to take a big chunk of the blame tbh.

I hope he's ok though.

When I first started riding, I was in an old fashioned biker gang and they always used to say that you're not an experienced biker until you fallen off at least 3 times.
Whilst I don't fully subscribe to that notion, I do understand how the odd tumble can make you a MUCH better rider in the long run.
He'll learn and he'll probably slow down alot for islands nhow, but he'll recognise the danger next time and hopefully, avoid it.

There are old bikers and there are bold bikers, but there a no old, bold bikers!
 
Carkeh said:
My friend stacked it in some dirt just yesterday.. etc...

Yes, I'd be blaming myself, too!

You SHOULD have taken it easy, or at least gave him a lecture first about riding at his own pace etc.

But... when it really comes down to it, he was the one riding his bike, and if he's stupid enough to try and exceed his limits then that is entirely his problem, and hopefully he learned from it (and without any major injury/damage, either).

You can't make his decisions for him. He'd have been fine to slow down if he wanted to. He made a choice and it bit him.

Tough titty, in my opinion.
 
Carkeh said:
My friend stacked it in some dirt just yesterday. He'd been riding 4 days and I took him to a quite stretch of country lane and a practically abandoned round-a-bout so he could get some practice in. Just on the way up to the round-a-bout he got a poor read on a corner and was riding outside his limits trying to keep up with me. He took the corner wide and went down in the dirt after a short bit of offroading.

At the time he was incredibly annoyed, we picked his bike up and there were very minor scratches on it and he chilled down a bit. I was cracking jokes to try and cheer him up and saying everything was okay. A few hours after, however, reality hit me like a train. I felt like I was entirely to blame.

I had taken him to an area he didn't know, I was riding as hard as I could and he was just trying to keep up with me. If I wasn't riding as hard as I possibly could, then he more than likely wouldn't of made a mess of the corner. I found this incredibly difficult to cope with. I took the blame entirely as my own, and to see his parent's faces after he'd been riding only 4 days, but spent 2 years trying to convince them to let him have a bike, it really dug deep. I just didn't know how to cope.

This all happened yesterday, even now I feel like absolute crap over it. He's fine, scratched his knees up with a minor bit of road rash. But I have an emotional weight hanging heavily on my mind. That's what is truly the worst part about bike crashes. It's not the physical injury that he suffered, but the emotional anxiety and anguish it causes the rider and those riding with him.

better that he finds his limits offroad with someone he knows instead of bailing alone.
you know, you can only find out how fast you can go until you fall off.
dont blame yourself bud!
 
Good topic. I've had one accident when I first started to ride years ago (14 year gap, but was unrelated to the accident). I was going on a unfamiliar highway at night (it was a 2 laner). I went on the highway and went for a third lane that wasn't there. The median was dirt and rocks. I was tank slapping for awhile then went flying when the front wheel went out. I wasn't too seriously hurt aside from my hands being cut up (no gloves). It was about a 30 minute ride back to my house and I wasn't really shaken up about it until after I got home. After awhile I just accepted it and moved on.
 
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