CurlyBlakey said:AZZ3R said:Reasons why NCB was brought into the topic is the fact that might encourage newer riders to think in the long term, and accepct the fact the test will benefit them, if you think it doesn't/won't thats your opinion (which your entitled to have) & I stand by my opinion about the NCB.
by the time someone is able to sit on your bike they have 5years NCB so it will be alot cheaper, when you compare it to getting on a 600 at 17.
No, it wasnt. Quite simply no.
It was bought in to reward careful drivers/riders and encourage everyone to drive safely.
AZZ3R said:CurlyBlakey said:AZZ3R said:Reasons why NCB was brought into the topic is the fact that might encourage newer riders to think in the long term, and accepct the fact the test will benefit them, if you think it doesn't/won't thats your opinion (which your entitled to have) & I stand by my opinion about the NCB.
by the time someone is able to sit on your bike they have 5years NCB so it will be alot cheaper, when you compare it to getting on a 600 at 17.
No, it wasnt. Quite simply no.
It was bought in to reward careful drivers/riders and encourage everyone to drive safely.
I brought it into the topic, I know what you get in the end of the policy year but i'm saying it as if a newer rider would see it. Not what it actually means.
Friz said:I'm getting really frustrated reading this thread.
The no claims argument is silly and insurance should have nothing to do with your licence. I doubt the govement even thought of this.
A lot of people don't have the money to keep buying a bike after 2 years, especially along with the extra money on more tests. Do we even know what you do for these tests? It'll probably just be a mod 2 every 2 years. Absolutely pointless.
This test change will kill young rider motorcycling in Britain. End of discussion. There's nothing that you can say to argue that without looking like an idiot. I'm sorry, but thats true.
125s are already very popular due to CBT. People who are looking at starting riding will see that they can do a cbt for 100 quid and ride a 125, or go for the full test for 500 quid and days of training to ride... a 125. Who is honestly going to do that?
If you get told you're going to have to pay a lot on your insurance for a 600 and you dont want to pay it then its simple. Dont get a 600. Or get a less sporty 600. It shouldnt be any reason to change the test completely, and its not for the goverment.
I'm trying not to pick on names here, but the reasons bought in to argue for this change are stupid and you really need to look at what you're writing cause its gibberish.
Bring someone who is an instructer into this thread. They're either going to be happy because theyre getting more money or upset cause no ones going to be taking any tests anymore.
AZZ3R said:Bikermole said:There will be many new riders like myself who have a job, but can't wait/afford to save to buy privately, and cannot get a bank loan, so they go to dealers to get finance so they then have to pay a bit more, and anyway, most do come with a 3 month warranty, which is worth a lot in peace of mind to a money conscious teenager!
You can't base the fact it will hurt the motorcycle industry because people can't afford to buy it outright.
Sorry but if you can afford to pay £5k on a bike over 3years then you can afford £5k straight away, Just save.
The majority of people on this forum & around the world will buy a bike privately.
God forbid, what if you lost your job tomorrow? who will be paying for your bike? But if you save for the bike & buy it outright the bike owes you money rather than the otherway around.
If you where to crash your financed bike & couldn't afford fully comp your paying for a bike & not even riding it + having to buy parts to fix it back to normal.
Financing a bike is only good when you know you either have a job for life (which there isn't many now'a days) or you have enough money saved for a good 6months so in the mean time you can look for a job. I've got my phone on a 24month contract @£40 a month I've got enough saved so if I'm to lose my job I don't have to worry it's just going to come out each month in the mean time I have 2years to look for a new job.
Financing a bike, you would have to think long & hard before signing that dotted line.
This test change will kill young rider motorcycling in Britain. End of discussion. There's nothing that you can say to argue that without looking like an idiot. I'm sorry, but thats true.
Bloke said:I suggest you read your post again.
I think anyone against these changes are only looking as far as the end of their nose and are clearly not seeing the bigger picture.
That said, I dont think they look like idiots when debating against it. I'm actually enjoying reading the posts about it.
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Chuckles85 said:but when your 26 come back to me and share your insights as to what you feel is safer for everyone
AZZ3R said:Chuckles85 said:but when your 26 come back to me and share your insights as to what you feel is safer for everyone
By the time I reach 26 you'll have a bad back & vlogging on a Harley :lol: *sorry off topic*
But it's true, the older you are the wiser you are so being older on a bigger bike isn't that bad.
AZZ3R said:Chuckles85 said:but when your 26 come back to me and share your insights as to what you feel is safer for everyone
By the time I reach 26 you'll have a bad back & vlogging on a Harley :lol: *sorry off topic*
But it's true, the older you are the wiser you are so being older on a bigger bike isn't that bad.
Chuckles85 said:(the age of around Thatmanfromyorkshire's)
Chuckles85 said:I can agree, but as statistics state, young drivers/riders particularly men, are more likely to be involved in an accident.