anyone using separate voice recorders?

wolfxandxcrow

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I got a good deal on an iOn air pro 1 only to realize it has no external mic input. i really like the camera, but i have no way to record speech.
I'm thinking of covering the external mic to get rid of wind noise and keep the outside sounds and use a voice recorder/mic to record talking. i have an older sony, but I'm curious to see what people's opinions are on the current handheld voice recorder market.
 
I tried it and it was a hassle. I am a grease monkey and not a techy guy that can spend all night getting this and that timed up correctly. Having a 1.5 year old running around the house doesn't afford me much time to fiddle around on the laptop. One thing I am good at is taking stuff apart..

My Solution was to just tear apart my "Gifted" sj4000 and clip the condenser mic from the board. Solder 2 leads on the back of the circuit board and add a Mic jack. This allows me to run a external mic with pretty decent quality. There has to be some pics of the Ion air taken apart showing mic location. They can all be taken off the board and have a mic jack soldered onto it. People do it to the 808 cams and the Mobius cams and they come out great.

This guy did it to a Contour hd that is similar I would presume?
 
ion doesn't have very much going on as far as hacks. I'm waiting on a guy to post a diy on something similar, just exploring options. either way would be equal for me, syncing wouldn't take too long, but having i built in mic would be best. thanks for the video, also
 
getting the DIY up for you mate as promised, if you're handy with a screwdriver and solder it's an easy thing to do, i gave up one the external recorder solution the sync would be a pain especially since i collect a lot of clips over a period of time and don't edit them right away... keep you posted!
 
you're everywhere! coming through in a huge way, man! i can probably get it apart, but i'd be more comfortable seeing how it works from someone who knows. where did you find the jack?
 
on a side note, i got some cheap lapel mics in today and neither of them work. all they do is buzz. is it possible the wires are backwards? My vlogging is having a rough start.
 
Should not matter unless the board is set up that way for bias.. (I doubt it)

Did you accidentally touch and solder the leads together when soldering it? That could really set up a buzz.

One way to find out really easily is to cut the wires on one of the lapel mics and swap em around without taking the camera apart. If that fixes it then just tidy them up.. If it doesn't fix it test the Mic out on your cell phones voice recorder. Plug the mic into the headset jack on your cell phone and bring up your voice recorder and test them out. If they work on it and not your camera you have something jacked on the hack in the cam.
 
you're everywhere! coming through in a huge way, man! i can probably get it apart, but i'd be more comfortable seeing how it works from someone who knows. where did you find the jack?

thanks man!!! Putting the DIY up right now and will post here too
 
ION AIR PRO External Microphone DIY Modification.

What you gone need:

A set of small screwdrivers, cutting tools
Solder and tin-solder
A small drill or dremel
A piece of thin flexible two pin cable
A female mono 3.5mm jack
Some Glue or Silicon
Electrical Tape
An external Microphone
( all of the above should be available in any good sorted hardware or electrical store )

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How its done:

First, you need to remove all screws on the front of the camera from the lens cover and take it off.

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Remove now all screws beneath the lens cover located around the lens. Also remove the two screws on the underside of the camera housing.

You can now slowly slide the black metal cover towards the front and take it of.

Remove the screw from the on/off switch and put those pieces aside.

Take of the podz on the backside of the camera.

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You now need to remove a thin plastic cover around the podz opening, which is glued to the housing and remove all screws beneath that plastic cover.

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Slowly slide the camera to the back, don’t take the inner body of the camera out just yet, since the microphone cable are still attached to it.

You also need to slide the blue cover towards the front for about 1cm, doing so will reveal the internal microphone under that cover on the top side of the camera.

Go ahead and remove ( solder ) the original microphone cables from the camera electrical board and slowly take out the camera body and put it aside for now.

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The original microphone is screwed to the housing; remove those screws and the microphone.

Use a dremel or similar and drill a hole as seen in image (there is a little bump which is just on the right position ).

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Cover the old microphone hole with silicon or glue and screw back the original holder on top let it dry.

Slide back the blue cover to its correct position, the original ‘design holes’ on the underside of that blue cover should now fit perfectly the new hole you just drilled.

Insert the cable you prepared and leave it long enough ( you can cut on length later on ), space is tight, make sure you don’t use to much excess cable and clue the cable just over the hole in place and let it dry.

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You can now go ahead solder that to cable to the camera electrical board (important polarity!) and add the 3.5mm standard mono jack to its other side. PLEASE be careful don’t use too much heat, those boards are very sensitive and the space to the surrounding components is small.

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Now may be a good time to test drive you camera before you start putting all back together.

Make sure to cover to cable with electrical tape where needed and slide back the camera body and reverse all steps above.

Some additional Tips and information’s:

It took awhile to figure out the best place and length of the cable, there is not much room inside the camera, there may better ways to do it.

I figured that a cheap mono microphone works the best, I also bought and expensive one, but it seems that the camera does not produce enough juice for it to work probably.

This is a DIY based on my own experience, I’m in no way responsible or held accountable if it does not work or if you damage the camera.

The camera will not be waterproof anymore obviously, but even heavy rain worked just fine with mine, I would not take it under water though!

Please do ask if there is anything unclear!!!!

HAVE FUN!
 
excellent write up! you might consider making it a separate post if a lot of people use iOn cams.

I'm definately going yo do this soon.
and the mics didn't work on anything. three different devices and they buzzed on everything. .99 cent mics from Amazon were a poor decision on my part.
thanks for the feedback everyone!
 
cheers you are welcome, the grammatical errors you can have for free :D

Regarding the mics, i had the same ended up with a 20$ mic from eBay which works ok, you even could use the original one, you just need to put it into some sort of housing to cover it, i also cut open the sponge of my helmet chin part ( the back side ) and put the mic inside there by the way, cuts out really the very last of the wind noises.
 
excellent write up! you might consider making it a separate post if a lot of people use iOn cams.

I'm definately going yo do this soon.
and the mics didn't work on anything. three different devices and they buzzed on everything. .99 cent mics from Amazon were a poor decision on my part.
thanks for the feedback everyone!

Try a set of earbud headphones with Mic in it and see if that works. If it does you can use a set of those for vlogging. Just tuck the buds around to the insides of the ear pockets in the helmet. Use a strip of strong tape to hold them in there. You aren't wanting to be able to hear from them....Just get them out of the way and not hack up your headphones.

For a UBER Cheap Microphone wind muff go to your local craft supply place and get a pack of these Black pom Poms. Add just a touch of super glue to each end of the mic no where near the input of the Mic and set the Pom pom down onto it. Like these. Craft stores sell them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Darice-25-i...Domain_0&var=550217219790&hash=item3a7ecf8d63

After all that just position the Microphone in front of your mouth or in the cheek pad and secure it.
 
I'm just breezing through this thread (since I don't have the camera), so please forgive me if I'm way wrong... but have you double checked if you're working with mono and not stereo cords/jacks, etc???
 
I'm just breezing through this thread (since I don't have the camera), so please forgive me if I'm way wrong... but have you double checked if you're working with mono and not stereo cords/jacks, etc???


yup GOOD CATCH!

To clarify, the camera is MONO in the image of the jack is STEREO my bad posted the wrong image!

THANKS @RoninK6 :cool:
 
Hah, thanks :) ! Just using the bit of audio knowledge I know form the TV station :p heh~

Nice how-to, btw ^_^ !
 
so i got a decent sounding Mic and I've tried hooking up an external jack. i used an old headphone extension cable but it has three cables in it.black, red, and bare. how should i connect these?
 
you only need the black and red one, the black should go where i soldered the white cable and the red where i used the orange please be careful those little electronic parts around do not like a lot of heat!
 
so i finally got it all put back together. Thanks to all you guys for help and advice! Hopefully I'll get some videos edited soon and start posting soon.
 
I plan on using my phone with the headset that came with it. I've run a couple tests and it seems that should work out to stuff the mic between my cheek and cheek pad. In editing I can me the video audio and overlay my phones audio. With a Contour Roam 2 I've had over had 20 minutes of content stay synced.
 

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