2 month old Drift HD 1080 Dead

[Mikesmotorbike]

The Drift is the camera equivalent of a hand grenade, the first time you switch it on the pin has been pulled

as long as you don't release the lever the pin can be put back in

but seriously, they're not as bad as people let out. If they do break, drift are very good at replacing them quickly

 

[Friz]

Quit spewing this generalized nonsense all the time.

I take offense to this and, quite frankly, there's no reason you should have said it.

Frankly, there's plenty of reason for it to be said, it's a correct statement. Several people seem to make it a mission to piss and moan about Drift whenever someone mentions a problem, but when someone with a gopro mentions the same problem it goes totally unnoticed. I agree with him, and so I'll back him up by saying this: We get it, you don't like Drift. STFU about it already.

I don't. I usually avoid drift threads exactly for that reason.
Problems with gopros don't get noticed because they're no where near as common. You have to admit this - it's fact.

And besides, the specific section that you've quoted had nothing to do with the drift issues as far as I was concerned.

I'm not sure why I'm being attacked for expressing a completely valid point of view.

 

[Bikermole]

At the end of the day, this thread is just one of many on this forum about faults with Drift cameras. This is an indisputable fact. A quick search will tell you this.

Friz was expressing his opinion. Something that seems to be seriously frowned upon on this forum.

If someone wants a Drift, they can have one. I'm in agreement that there are better cameras out there, for less money.

Just chill out

 

[Trinith]

I'm not sure why I'm being attacked for expressing a completely valid point of view.

You attack someone for posting their point of view, which is also completely valid, by telling them they shouldn't have said it, and then whine about someone telling you pretty much the exact same thing.

You're welcome to your point of view, and you're welcome to say it. Just as MotoRick is, and just as I am.

Friz was expressing his opinion. Something that seems to be seriously frowned upon on this forum.

See above. Why would you two come out and say that we're not allowed to express our opinions and then claim that YOU are the ones being repressed? I don't care if you want to bag on Drift. But to do it as often as people do, well it's a bit much.

You're right, a quick search will tell you that the Drift HD (particularly the one released outside North America) has been buggy. You'll also see a fair number of people repeatedly posting in those threads the same drivel. The opinion that Drift is a crappy company has been expressed numerous times. We're tired of hearing it parroted again and again ad nauseum.

Go ahead, keep whining about it. If I wanted to stop you I could very easily abuse my powers and make it stop by simply banning everyone who expresses an opinion I don't like. But I don't, why? Because you're allowed to say almost whatever you want. But here you guys go beating a dead horse, we're tired of hearing it, and we're going to freely express the opinion that enough is enough.

 

[Miggs7170]

Didn't mean to start a back and forth. I was just pissed my camera broke and really have no one my side to bitch to. Sent it off today - hope I just had a dud. I've been wanting to add a second camera for different angles and whatnot anyhow.

Anyway - thanks for the feedback and opinions.

 

[Friz]

I'm not sure why I'm being attacked for expressing a completely valid point of view.

You attack someone for posting their point of view, which is also completely valid, by telling them they shouldn't have said it, and then whine about someone telling you pretty much the exact same thing.

See my original post:

This is in no way directed towards any particular person, ESPECIALLY Miggs7170, but I seriously can't work out why anyone on this forum would ever buy (or otherwise come into possession of) a Drift camera.

They are constantly breaking, and don't even offer the best recording quality, ease of use and practicality of wearing on the helmet. I just don't get it.

This was not an attack. I made that as clear as possible at the start of my post. It's just an opinion, based on observations. I'm not even attacking the drift camera or company here, I'm just pointing out that I, personally, cannot work out why anyone would buy one based on how often they go wrong.

If I'm in the market for a product, and I know that one fails more often than another one - why would I risk it? Why not attempt to avoid potential issues? The other product may break, but the chance is far less.

You must see the sense behind this, right? It's something I can't get my head around so I made a post about it. One of the main uses of forums is to express an opinion. That's all I'm doing - and you can't really argue with an opinion.

You're welcome to your point of view, and you're welcome to say it. Just as MotoRick is, and just as I am.

Completely agree. Utterly, utterly 100% completely agree. Never argued this.

However, I do have a problem with the language being used to express your points.

but BS.... Quit spewing this generalized nonsense all the time.

STFU about it already

Go ahead, keep whining about it.

This is disgusting and irrelevant to the conversation at hand. These excerpts (and parts of your posts that are similar) are the only parts of your posts that I have problem with.
But this isn't the point. I just wanted to get that across.

Friz was expressing his opinion. Something that seems to be seriously frowned upon on this forum.

See above. Why would you two come out and say that we're not allowed to express our opinions and then claim that YOU are the ones being repressed? I don't care if you want to bag on Drift. But to do it as often as people do, well it's a bit much.

Neither of us said that. You, on the other hand, are telling us to shut up while we're expressing ours. Yes - you could ban us if you wanted but I really doubt you'll do that given how bad it would make you look.

I'm not sure where all this drift hate you speak of is. It could be on the hundreds of other drift help threads - I don't know, I don't read them.
You seem to be taking my opinion as a personal attack. I'm not sure why.

 

[Nerb]

This is in no way directed towards any particular person, ESPECIALLY Miggs7170, but I seriously can't work out why anyone on this forum would ever buy (or otherwise come into possession of) a Drift camera.

They are constantly breaking, and don't even offer the best recording quality, ease of use and practicality of wearing on the helmet. I just don't get it.

This was not an attack. I made that as clear as possible at the start of my post. It's just an opinion, based on observations. I'm not even attacking the drift camera or company here, I'm just pointing out that I, personally, cannot work out why anyone would buy one based on how often they go wrong.

If I'm in the market for a product, and I know that one fails more often than another one - why would I risk it? Why not attempt to avoid potential issues? The other product may break, but the chance is far less.

You must see the sense behind this, right? It's something I can't get my head around so I made a post about it. One of the main uses of forums is to express an opinion. That's all I'm doing - and you can't really argue with an opinion.

You can certainly argue against you opinion! I had a drift fail and it was replaced within a week with the newer model no questions asked. Excellent customer service and a week down time did not bother me. The recording quality is argueable, lots of people prefer the drift colour over the gopro and both cameras are typically used to upload to youtube where most of the quality dissapears anyway. Ease of use and practicality of wearing on a helmet is far superior on the drift imo. In fact, your the first person ive seen say that it isnt.

I can see why Trinith and Motorick might get their back up about it. You may be more careful with your words, but youre still telling them that their choice in Camera is not valid by saying " I, personally, cannot work out why anyone would buy one". Both of them see you as an adult and value your opinion, and so they take your words as they are written... which is an attack on their choice to buy a drift. Your words are not really opinion if they say "You must see the sense behind this, right?". That is a blatant attack on their ability to make a choice for themselves.

 

[Friz]

Ah ha! This is excellent. Honestly, I completely see where you're coming from.

I'll just clear up a few things and then I'm done.

The recording quality is argueable, lots of people prefer the drift colour over the gopro and both cameras are typically used to upload to youtube where most of the quality dissapears anyway. Ease of use and practicality of wearing on a helmet is far superior on the drift imo. In fact, your the first person ive seen say that it isnt.

I agree with you - the drift is a far better camera for actually wearing on the helmet compared to the gopro. I never said otherwise. I haven't actually mentioned another camera during my posts - but when I said that the drift didn't have the best ease of use and wasn't the best to wear on the helmet I actually had the Contour in mind. Specifically the Contour Roam.

I can see why Trinith and Motorick might get their back up about it. You may be more careful with your words, but youre still telling them that their choice in Camera is not valid by saying " I, personally, cannot work out why anyone would buy one". Both of them see you as an adult and value your opinion, and so they take your words as they are written... which is an attack on their choice to buy a drift. Your words are not really opinion if they say "You must see the sense behind this, right?". That is a blatant attack on their ability to make a choice for themselves.

It was not an attack. I tried to make that as clear as possible in my first post. I just wanted to express an opinion, that I can't work out why anyone would buy one. It's as straight forward as that, I cannot get my head around it for all the reasons I've previously posted.
Where I put about seeing sense was not for an attack either. I was spelling out my thought process in an effort to show them my point of view so that they might realise where my opinion was formed.

At the end of the day, I weigh up advantages vs disadvantages and decided that the disadvantages don't make the product worth it. Anyone that buys a drift has probably done the same and decided the advantages make it worth it instead. That's fine, there's no problem in that. I'm not going to tell you that you did a bad thing or that you're wrong - it's your decision.
I just can't get my head around why you would. It's nothing personal. It's not an attack. It's just the way my head works.

Nerb, thanks for that. Like I said before, I completely see where you're coming from and I admire the way you've explained things. This is now starting to feel like an actual discussion rather than a pointless argument (<-- overview of all posts, not an attack on any particular person. Just clarifying before someone retaliates).

 

[Nerb]

It was not an attack. I tried to make that as clear as possible in my first post.

Ok, I believe you. But just realize that there is a difference between:
a) "Im not saying your an asshole, but only assholes ride CBR600's"
and
b) "I dont like CBR600's"

Especially on the net. In person you should always use a).

 

[Friz]

It was not an attack. I tried to make that as clear as possible in my first post.

Ok, I believe you. But just realize that there is a difference between:
a) "Im not saying your an asshole, but only assholes ride CBR600's"
and
b) "I dont like CBR600's"

Especially on the net. In person you should always use a).

Hahah, yeah. I completely understand. I was totally going for b).