Noobie question, but I got to ask...

[Baldbiker]

So I have recently acquired the 2 camera system for the bike. Shots are coming up great, and with some work, I'm improving the audio. The question I have is, what is the best method for switching back and forth between the two camera angles while keeping the same audio flow? In other words, while I'm chatting it up, the camera angles go back and forth but audio stays the same.

In my editor, I have basically been disconnecting the audio from the main camera clip, then deleting the video for the part that I want to replace with the reverse camera angle, and placing the video over top the audio track. I've been doing this method with some success, although much room for improvement to come, and I've been running into some editing nightmares if I overlap or do something incorrectly. So... is there an easier way? Or is this it?

 

[Hippo-Drones]

I sync up the cameras, then split both videos at the points I finish a pertinent sentence or gesticulate to the camera, cutting out all the dead air/rubbish roads/traffic lights/etc. If I am feeling lazy, I'll just use the second camera as a PIP but full screen, just muted or if I can be bothered I'll remove all the video not being used like you are so it sits mostly on a single timeline after the edit rather than 2 timelines over each other.

 

[Dewey316]

What editing software are you using? I do a multi cam clip for the 3 or 4 cameras I run, and put my voice recording audio track with that. Then I cut and edit the whole thing before I worry about switching views. Last thing is switching between camera views when needed and syncing changes with music.

 

[LoneWolfer]

I only just started working the two camera setup again.

I switch based on experience. If a particular gesture looks better on the second camera, or if something pops over my right shoulder, if the sun is causing havoc on my helmet camera, and during cornering. Cornering is my go to shot to bring in the second camera if I haven't switched up the the view in a while. I try and switch the view once very minute.

I work in Adobe Premiere and run a multi cam timeline for the build. I mute the second came unless its a quiet moment where someone is trying to talk to me near the bike as my helmet cam's gain doesn't really pick up anyone outside my helmet.

 

[SighBored]

As long as the cameras are sync no issues flipping footage while maintaining a single sound source.. On FCPX.

 

[scooterwuf]

If there is a slate mark - hand clap or horn beep - to synch up all cameras it should be fairly easy to set them up on an editing timeline and cut back and forth between the different camera shots. Some editing program allow for seamless multi-camera edits. The set up may require some work, but worth it once it gets started.

-Wolf

 

[Drakhen99]

I'm just here for the yuks.

Oh, and to say YEP to all the other posters... what they said is correct. Use the 3-clap method to sync all the cameras, drop 'em into your editor, create a multicam clip [if your editor supports it], and edit your footage, then go back and switch camera angles where appropriate.

Dewey did a good Davinci Resolve Multicam how-to vid a while back, and it's somewhere around here... and I've got one going up on my channel in a week or so doing the same thing.

-John

 

[Baldbiker]

What editing software are you using? I do a multi cam clip for the 3 or 4 cameras I run, and put my voice recording audio track with that. Then I cut and edit the whole thing before I worry about switching views. Last thing is switching between camera views when needed and syncing changes with music.

To be honest, I have no idea how to do all that... yet

 

[Baldbiker]

I'm just here for the yuks.

Oh, and to say YEP to all the other posters... what they said is correct. Use the 3-clap method to sync all the cameras, drop 'em into your editor, create a multicam clip [if your editor supports it], and edit your footage, then go back and switch camera angles where appropriate.

Dewey did a good Davinci Resolve Multicam how-to vid a while back, and it's somewhere around here... and I've got one going up on my channel in a week or so doing the same thing.

-John

No clue how to do all that, starting to sound like greek to me. But what I've been doing is unlock the audio from the camera clips and just dropping the video along wherever I like into the front video clip, then deleting the opposite footage. It was working well in the last vid I just posted until something got moved when it wasn't unlocked, overlapped and caused a catastrophic scrambling of all the data. It took hours to sort it all out like one big glorious puzzle, and after a few days, half a bottle of Tylenol and several headaches later, I got it about 95% sorted out, enough to be able to upload the video. If you watch the latest one and are listening for it, you can detect the blips and mixups in some of the audio, but it was the best I could do so I let it go as passable lol. Hence why I am asking around for other techniques, but at this point they sound far too complicated.

 

[Drakhen99]

No clue how to do all that, starting to sound like greek to me. But what I've been doing is unlock the audio from the camera clips and just dropping the video along wherever I like into the front video clip, then deleting the opposite footage. It was working well in the last vid I just posted until something got moved when it wasn't unlocked, overlapped and caused a catastrophic scrambling of all the data. It took hours to sort it all out like one big glorious puzzle, and after a few days, half a bottle of Tylenol and several headaches later, I got it about 95% sorted out, enough to be able to upload the video. If you watch the latest one and are listening for it, you can detect the blips and mixups in some of the audio, but it was the best I could do so I let it go as passable lol. Hence why I am asking around for other techniques, but at this point they sound far too complicated.

What editing software are you using? Dewey and I use Davinci Resolve, so we can help you out there - he already posted a vid to his channel, and I've got one going up in mid-April that does similar things, walking the viewer through creating multicam clips specifically for motovlogging.

As for audio/video out of sync issues - you're not alone! Dewey and I did a podcast-style video for the Pan America reveal, and OMG, I had recorded my screen in OBS, but stupidly set it to 60fps instead of 59.94, and after 10m or so, we were horribly out of sync, and I had no way of fixing it. I tried everything, but in the end, I did the edits and went back and moved the video clips of us, which were overlaying the OBS stuff, until they were "close enough". What should've been 2 hours became 10, so I get it.

-John

 

[Baldbiker]

I've been using AVS4U "videopad" video editing software. Although it's limited in it's abilities, I've become used to it and use it comfortably and with ease now. Another reason I like this one is because there is no subscription fees, which I simply don't believe in. Occasionally it requires payment for a major update, but at least then I'm getting a big upgrade for a one time payment so I feel that's worth it. I think at my current level I can stick with this method but if the channel ever gets significantly bigger, I'll look into trying other apps. I really hate learning curves though.

 

[Drakhen99]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Davinci Resolve has a very powerful free version that gives you probably 90% of the functionality at no cost. It's got a heck of a learning curve though, so you could download it and tinker with it over time until you're ready to use it. If you pay the $295 for the Studio version, you get hardware-accelerated rendering and some other stuff, but it's a one-time fee, Black Magic Design has never charged [as of this post] a fee for any updates.

-John

 

[Baldbiker]

Doesn't sound worth it just to be able to flip my camera views back and forth. I'll go old school for now!

 

[Dewey316]

It really isn't "hard" to do, it is just learning where and how to do it, like a lot of things, once you do it, and figure it out, you look back and realize it wasn't hard.

The video I did on it is in this thread:

Davinci Resolve 16 MutiCam Clip editing

I still need to upgrade my DaVinci 16 to 17. Part of me is afraid to, its working perfectly for me now! :oops: just do that. It's simply better and more stable

motovlog.com

Really, if you are using Resolve, or Premier Pro, or Final Cut, chances are the process is very similar.

 

[mymotorrad]

You can separate the audio from the video track so it's independent