You Are Invisible On A Road Full Of Retards

kuhlka

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You will come off. Accept it and put it to the back of your brain.

This piece of advice is why so many kids try stupid shit on the road. "Well crashin' is just part of ridin'!"

I have yet to crash on the street and don't plan to anytime soon. I still hoon the shit out of my bikes.
 

sixmiffedy

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This piece of advice is why so many kids try stupid shit on the road. "Well crashin' is just part of ridin'!"

I have yet to crash on the street and don't plan to anytime soon. I still hoon the shit out of my bikes.

I disagree, it lets you be free of the fear, kids do stupid shit on the road due to arrogance, cockiness, peer pressure, feeling like they're invincible and they know everything.
 

kuhlka

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I disagree, it lets you be free of the fear, kids do stupid shit on the road due to arrogance, cockiness, peer pressure, feeling like they're invincible and they know everything.

Fear is a good thing. It lets you know when stuff's getting dangerous and when to dial back. The character traits you listed tends to go right along with the squids who think 'crashing is just part of riding' and most of those d-bags glorify wrecking bikes.

Freeing yourself of fear is done through training and getting to know the limits of your machine. The only thing 'crashing happens' applies to is racing. When you're trying to push the ragged edge on the track that's bound to happen. On the street, most wrecks can be avoided by paying attention and not riding like an ass.
 
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sixmiffedy

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I agree fear is a good thing but s fear of crashing can make you paranoid and lessen your ability as a rider.

Yes most wrecks can be avoided but I'll bet if you put a poll up the majority of riders have had an off whether that involves anyone else on the road or just yourself sliding on gravel or horse shit, defensive rider, hoon, anyone really, training will only take you so far, you can't account for the actions of everyone on the road.
 

Lurch

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No, but you can mitigate them, by riding to the conditions and to how far you can clearly see.
 
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sixmiffedy

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You can yes but not eliminate, based on how many hours we do on the road the likelihood is you're going to have an off.

Just because one dude hasn't crashed and doesn't like what I said doesn't make it not true.

What I said was based on my experiences, hearing the experiences of others and talking to loads of other riders and the majority have had an off, most aren't even hoons as I've never hung around with that type of crowd.
 

ToastRider

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1. The bike goes where you look.

2. Avoid buying too much first bike, because you WILL drop it.

3. The bike goes where you look.
 

kuhlka

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You can yes but not eliminate, based on how many hours we do on the road the likelihood is you're going to have an off.

Just because one dude hasn't crashed and doesn't like what I said doesn't make it not true.

What I said was based on my experiences, hearing the experiences of others and talking to loads of other riders and the majority have had an off, most aren't even hoons as I've never hung around with that type of crowd.

The people I know who've crashed did so in one of the following ways.

-Wasn't paying attention and panic-braked into a lowside.
-Was riding on bald over-cooked tires on a twisty road and ate shit hard.
-Had a chain fail because they installed the link incorrectly.
-Got t-boned by a vehicle at an intersection.
-Hit a deer, turkey, armadillo...

Of those four, the only one that wasn't avoidable was the t-bone. There were plenty of other single vehicle crashes I've heard about, but all of them were avoidable. If you look up the statistics, you'll see the vast majority of motorcycle 'accidents' are single vehicle and the most common is a person going wide in a corner and off the road.

If you've got a level head, keep your bike maintained properly, and ride near the speed limit it's pretty easy to stay crash-free. I think it's fair to say, "You might crash, but don't let fear paralyze you."
 

RicViper

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"You are invisible on a road full of retards."
Best piece of advice I could give to any beginning rider.
What is the best advice you would give to a new rider?
Always assume NO ONE ever sees you
Always accept the possibility of coming off and where you plan to ditch
Attempt to get eye contact from cars attempting to pull out
Piggy Back Vehicles thru intersections if possible instead of a loan wolf
 

ride512

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+1 for Ride Your Own Ride

I've been riding for 2 months and Ride Your Own Ride has been my mantra. I push my comfort zone, but if I find that I've pushed myself too far I slow down or find another way to where I'm going. I'd rather slow up traffic than wreck.
 
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Highballer

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my advice for new riders: Treat everyone in a car like they are drunk and stupid and part blind.
 

Grimfaith

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Wear proper gear, being 100% safe doesn't mean 100% unlikely.
 

Foreigner

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I only been riding for few months now and had my first accident. This should suit the THEME just perfect.
I`v been queing up to get into Lloyds car park (bury st edmunds, risby gate street) when old boy in his astra decidet to start rolling back. Mind you there was cars behind me aswell. Me and everyone else in car park started beeping horn , but no it was no help. He rolled in to me and if that was not enough he stuck his reverse in and pushed me even more.

When he finally stoped and got out of his car he said that he could not see me , even that i was behind him for last 2 minutes waiting in the queue...

Lucky I did not drop my bike , but it scared the sh** out of me. Still done some demage to fairing and front wheel.

He Finally admited his fault :)

Bikes being checked by insurance.... god i missed her...
 

biker1968

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Wanna know how little the car drivers see of you....drive a car... it really helps you appreciate just that. I ride a couple of hours every day, the few times I am in my car I always get a sober reminder of this....
 

Foreigner

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I drive my car every day, more than my bike and i have to admit, until iv started to ride bike i never payed to much attention to motorcyclists. But boy it has changed now.. :D
 

CBRHoonigan

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Ride like everyone cant drive, have fun and know your limit and expect coming off at some point, 2 types of riders those who have crashed and those who are going to crash.
 

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