Vlogging Apathy?
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Shirou
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It's complicated to post every week. This demands time and sometimes you cannot have enough.
For example, making, editing and uploading a single video takes 1 hour to produce, 2 hours to review and edit and 1 extra hour to caption and upload. On my first video I was editing for 6 or 7 hours, threw an all-nighter and went sleep-deprived to work and the result wasn't that great.
Some people jump on the wagon then get tired of doing this or there's a significant change on their lives that keeps them from continuing with the vlogs.
I noticed exactly the same, some vloggers that kept uploading 2 to 4 videos a week and that skyrocketed in terms of views and subscribers, now aren't uploading anything. Some reduced the pace and others seems like they just gave up.
I think that's what happening, lifestyle change, they got bored of doing this, they have something to do (finals for those that are studying like myself) or they got caught by the winter and garaged their bikes until the next "riding season".
I can ride all year, there's nothing like a riding season here, I didn't stop vlogging but I don't get enough time to edit. Tried to squeeze my laptop at work and do some editing on my free time there but moving the material back and forth between computers is a huge hassle. My media folder is too big and it gets more time consuming on a 5400 rpm notebook hard drive.
For example, making, editing and uploading a single video takes 1 hour to produce, 2 hours to review and edit and 1 extra hour to caption and upload. On my first video I was editing for 6 or 7 hours, threw an all-nighter and went sleep-deprived to work and the result wasn't that great.
Some people jump on the wagon then get tired of doing this or there's a significant change on their lives that keeps them from continuing with the vlogs.
I noticed exactly the same, some vloggers that kept uploading 2 to 4 videos a week and that skyrocketed in terms of views and subscribers, now aren't uploading anything. Some reduced the pace and others seems like they just gave up.
I think that's what happening, lifestyle change, they got bored of doing this, they have something to do (finals for those that are studying like myself) or they got caught by the winter and garaged their bikes until the next "riding season".
I can ride all year, there's nothing like a riding season here, I didn't stop vlogging but I don't get enough time to edit. Tried to squeeze my laptop at work and do some editing on my free time there but moving the material back and forth between computers is a huge hassle. My media folder is too big and it gets more time consuming on a 5400 rpm notebook hard drive.
kryten
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I can only speak for me personally but it just kinda seems pointless sometimes. I get very little for my effort. I get trolls and assholes more than positive comments so it just kinda zaps my desire to do it anymore. When I first started motovlogging there was more of a community. We did video challenges and tags. We did meetups or dual vlogs. Now it just seems like everyone is out for stardom and they have no desire to interact with other motovloggers. They just want to have fans and they interact with their fans. If you're a fellow vlogger they ignore you.
Sometimes I go out with the intent to vlog and then I just get so into the ride that I forget to vlog. I did one today but I don't know if I'll upload it because it was kinda shit. I have several other channels that are doing much better and they actually make money so I devote more time to them.
I also seem to go through phases where I want to get out and vlog more. Right now I'm in a slump. Maybe eventually I'll get back into it. If not I have my other channels and they all have a better following and more of a community feel like motovlogging used to.
Sometimes I go out with the intent to vlog and then I just get so into the ride that I forget to vlog. I did one today but I don't know if I'll upload it because it was kinda shit. I have several other channels that are doing much better and they actually make money so I devote more time to them.
I also seem to go through phases where I want to get out and vlog more. Right now I'm in a slump. Maybe eventually I'll get back into it. If not I have my other channels and they all have a better following and more of a community feel like motovlogging used to.
TripleTwister
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Im still uploading, lol. I do have over 80 vids from the past several weeks to go through which probably means it looks like im not commenting etc but i know our local group is strong. Even though im not riding atm, Facebook vlogger community is Vstrong I find as is Twitter (not really my forte). Sad to say several ppl have said that this site isnt worth bothering with and in many ways its understandable :/
TriumfAnt
It was good while it lasted
There's still plenty of vlogs for me to watch (probably too many 
) but I was just looking at the people who I sub to and noticed some who were once regular vloggers had suddenly disappeared. I understand we all have lives to live, it was just something that I'd noticed recently. I'd certainly like to upload more, but I don't commute, which is a good time to record footage, and there's not many vloggers in my area for meet ups/rides. Fortunately I've not had trouble with trolls, but I know the feeling of putting in hours of work on a vlog, be it recording or editing, and then not getting many views. I still enjoy doing it though, so that's the main reason I'm going to keep at it.
I know what you mean about this site TT. I just got back from a week away and there were hardly any new posts when I got back. Maybe it will all pick up next summer.
We could do some kind of remote meet up. Take turns asking questions for others to answer and edit it all together.
) but I was just looking at the people who I sub to and noticed some who were once regular vloggers had suddenly disappeared. I understand we all have lives to live, it was just something that I'd noticed recently. I'd certainly like to upload more, but I don't commute, which is a good time to record footage, and there's not many vloggers in my area for meet ups/rides. Fortunately I've not had trouble with trolls, but I know the feeling of putting in hours of work on a vlog, be it recording or editing, and then not getting many views. I still enjoy doing it though, so that's the main reason I'm going to keep at it.I know what you mean about this site TT. I just got back from a week away and there were hardly any new posts when I got back. Maybe it will all pick up next summer.
We could do some kind of remote meet up. Take turns asking questions for others to answer and edit it all together.
Nerb
Seriously not serious
kryten said:
Maybe interact with some different vloggers then? I interact with vloggers who do challenges, meetups and dual vlogs and if feels like a special little community. Sure there's a few who seem like theyre there to make money, but theyre shit and do draw a shit crowd.
kryten said:
Maybe thats the problem there? I watch your vlogs and enjoy them. I usually comment on most vlogs i watch if I have something meaningful to say.
As for the OP, I havnt noticed a large proportion not posting, probably due to the vloggers I associate with.
thunderous71
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TriumfAnt said:
It's interesting, some people do vlogs for the fame and go on and on about subscribers and how many they have, well it seems a lot are more interested in sub count rather than anything else which is sad
These people tend to give up after 6 months or so if they don't get their instant fame.Other try it as a way of making money (very few people make money thats worth it from vlogs) and when they don't give up.
Some are fair weather riders and only post in the couple of months of nice sunny weather they have.
But I think most that stop posting just jave tried it, got bored of it and moved on
I do think the market so to speak is saturated and its harder to find the good from the bad.
I also agree that there is sadly a one upmanship with some of the vlogers out there, the environment has changes as it has become cheaper and easier to vlog.
Just do it for the fun of it is my ethos, when it stops being fun it may be time to reinvent or move on.
kryten
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Shirou said:
Thanks!
Nerb said:
I don't notice many that do those sorts of things anymore. Maybe I'm missing them. I had a habit of subscribing to every motovlogger I saw and now i have loads of videos and miss a lot of the good stuff. I need to go through and purge the ones that just upload riding videos and not vlogs. Maybe after purging those I'll start seeing the people that do challenges and stuff.
Nerb said:
That is definitely part of the problem. The other channels I have just seem more rewarding. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the good comments I get and I do get quite a few but it seems like a lot more are trolls. Being told how shitty you are every time you upload a video can really take away the desire to make more. I know it happens to most people once they get more than a few hundred subs. I haven't quit yet and don't plan to but most of the time lately when I throw my leg over the bike I just want to ride and the camera usually stays off.
Miggs7170
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TriumfAnt said:
Some of us threw our damn bike down the road and are waiting for it to get fixed :shock:
But seriously, I'd wager 80% of new vloggers will hang it up within their first 6 months to a year. Most are either getting into it for the wrong reason or realize what a massive time sink it can be. Still more lose patience when they're not instafamous or figure (rightly or wrongly) that being in front of the camera and in the public eye isn't for them.
I wish I uploaded more, but if I get one out every two weeks (wrecks withstanding) I feel like I'm doing pretty good. Vlogging doesn't and never will pay the bills or put beer in my fridge, so the job and family has to take priority. As long as there are still genuinely good vloggers (read: people) to interact with I'll keep plugging along. Don't let the slide off of others get to you. Some of the shine has worn off the coin, but I'd wager there will always be a good handful of folks worth hanging around for.
TallGuySmallBike
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Miggs7170 said:TriumfAnt said:
Some of us threw our damn bike down the road and are waiting for it to get fixed :shock:
But seriously, I'd wager 80% of new vloggers will hang it up within their first 6 months to a year. Most are either getting into it for the wrong reason or realize what a massive time sink it can be. Still more lose patience when they're not instafamous or figure (rightly or wrongly) that being in front of the camera and in the public eye isn't for them.
I wish I uploaded more, but if I get one out every two weeks (wrecks withstanding) I feel like I'm doing pretty good. Vlogging doesn't and never will pay the bills or put beer in my fridge, so the job and family has to take priority. As long as there are still genuinely good vloggers (read: people) to interact with I'll keep plugging along. Don't let the slide off of others get to you. Some of the shine has worn off the coin, but I'd wager there will always be a good handful of folks worth hanging around for.
I see what you mean for the talking to a camera in person. I have trouble showing my FACE and talk but behind a camera I can talk for hours on end. since I normally talk to my self and just forget the camera is there
TallGuySmallBike
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Meifesto
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Allot of vloggers that i check almost daily are from the Netherlands.
And they don't have a schedule or what ever, sometimes they upload 3 vlogs in a week and then it can go silence for weeks or months.
And same goes for example JradOffroad or Gingerbiker.
Doesn't bother me that much, you know they are still in the game and otherwise i just send them a pb to ask if they are alright
And they don't have a schedule or what ever, sometimes they upload 3 vlogs in a week and then it can go silence for weeks or months.
And same goes for example JradOffroad or Gingerbiker.
Doesn't bother me that much, you know they are still in the game and otherwise i just send them a pb to ask if they are alright
kryten
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Meifesto said:
That really irritated me too. I used to love doing video responses and asking my viewers to do video responses to my videos. It allowed us to have conversations and interact more. I guess you can interact with comments but sometimes I just want to hear what people are thinking without them editing it into small chunks of text.
lewis94iify
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I've just started a full time job with a uni course at the same time 
The new year will mark a year since I started vlogging and having only just moved onto a big bike, I'm not gonna stop now! I've been watching less vlogs and commenting less but I just don't really have time at the minute.
Edit- I don't do it for the sub numbers. I have 220. I do it for the people who watch my videos regualarly as well as a hobby kind of thing
The new year will mark a year since I started vlogging and having only just moved onto a big bike, I'm not gonna stop now! I've been watching less vlogs and commenting less but I just don't really have time at the minute.Edit- I don't do it for the sub numbers. I have 220. I do it for the people who watch my videos regualarly as well as a hobby kind of thing
O8ride
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If I gave a damn about subs, views, or what people think about scooters, I'd have given up a long time ago.
It's clear that no-one is interested in listening to me talk, not even my kids do that, that's why I stopped talking on my vlogs and now just post up short vids of slightly ionteresting things that happen on my daily commute. And I commute all year round on my bike.
But no-one gives a shit what I do, no-one watches, and I rarely get any comments on here either. Motovlog community? Only if you're on a big bike.
It's clear that no-one is interested in listening to me talk, not even my kids do that, that's why I stopped talking on my vlogs and now just post up short vids of slightly ionteresting things that happen on my daily commute. And I commute all year round on my bike.
But no-one gives a shit what I do, no-one watches, and I rarely get any comments on here either. Motovlog community? Only if you're on a big bike.
Spacep0d
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@Kryten: Don't give up man, I always like your vlogs. I also like that you interact with the community and other vloggers.
As for me, I've been at it since July 2012 and it's been great. I do notice that some other vloggers won't give me the time of day, but many are pretty good about responding if I have a question for them. I guess with big vloggers, they get so many comments it can be hard to answer them all. Personally, I try to answer *every* comment and PM, but that's me. I'm a little OCD completionist in that regard. Though, if I get what I think is an unresearched question I may refer someone to a video that covers it.
Vlogging for money? Not a bad side-goal but we won't get rich vlogging. Vlogging for fame? This has to come naturally. Setting out to 'be famous' is the wrong way to approach it. Make great videos and the views, subs and 'fame' comes with it. The way I view it, if I am happy vlogging and I make the videos I want to make, that's its own reward. I find it kinda easy to ride and talk so no harm done there.
No apathy here, but it can be difficult to do a vlog a week when editing three camera-angles takes as long as it does.
Anyhoot...hope I don't get burnout. So far so good.
As for me, I've been at it since July 2012 and it's been great. I do notice that some other vloggers won't give me the time of day, but many are pretty good about responding if I have a question for them. I guess with big vloggers, they get so many comments it can be hard to answer them all. Personally, I try to answer *every* comment and PM, but that's me. I'm a little OCD completionist in that regard. Though, if I get what I think is an unresearched question I may refer someone to a video that covers it.
Vlogging for money? Not a bad side-goal but we won't get rich vlogging. Vlogging for fame? This has to come naturally. Setting out to 'be famous' is the wrong way to approach it. Make great videos and the views, subs and 'fame' comes with it. The way I view it, if I am happy vlogging and I make the videos I want to make, that's its own reward. I find it kinda easy to ride and talk so no harm done there.
No apathy here, but it can be difficult to do a vlog a week when editing three camera-angles takes as long as it does.
Anyhoot...hope I don't get burnout. So far so good.
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