Using and Recognizing Selective Editing

[Fool Moon]

I was critical of all the selective editing i saw when i was researching the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. After watching dozens of clips, my wife was convinced most women walked around in bikini tops and daisy dukes, when i truth, those very very few women had A LOT of camera on them and made most all of the edits.
Another illusion i had when we rode to South Dakota for the Rally (I was there only 2 days of the actual rally) is that the roads are FILLED with bikes. No, the Black Hills are vast and roads are numerous. You will find crowds at popular roads and sites, but i rode free and clear of other bikes so much it was amazing.

Last year i rode to another Rally in Red Lodge, Montana off the Beartooth Hwy. When i rode the 60+ mile Beartooth Hwy i had a camera running the length of it. When i added the footage to the editing timeline, i removed about 9 minutes of any cars in the shots. I was left with nearly 20 minutes of a ride that appears i'm alone with a few other riders. I wasn't looking to 'deceive' viewers, but cars driving by are visually annoying.

No major point here, just talking about how i watch videos from events now, i try to look on the fringes and in the background to see what isn't being shown. Sturgis videos are made to look super busy while videos from National Parks look much more pastural, you don't see the traffic jams in Yellowstone too often in videos, do you?

 

[Meifesto]

Check any ride out or ride of century footage and people focus on those doing the burnouts and wheelies.
Or the bikes that really stand out.

Always have been, and i even am somewhat guilty off it.
Why is simple, it sells

Some for bikini ladies
That is why some female motovloggers (not all) grow so big, change your sprocket or your oil in a bikini and bend over in front of the camera and you will have a viral vlog
Sad, but true.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

I try to keep my talking to when there is no car in front of me, or I'll switch cameras to my facecam if I'm using it. I think it would often make for a less appealing vid to keep them in, and I guess also makes for clicky friendly thumbnails if you have bikini clad lasses in them

 

[Fool Moon]

What i learned from so many peoples videos, which are more travel/vacation clips, not motovlogs format, is that a person goes to an event and has a plan to video all the exciting events and attractions. In the end you have a few minute video with exciting and vibrant events happening that could be days and miles apart, but the video looks like a carnival atmosphere.

Haven't seen anyone put together something along the lines of, "This is what i really saw, the good and bad." Profession Ads show, "you'll have a great time", amateur videos show, "i had a great time".

I just keep reading between the lines where i can.

 

[Moto Mengy]

Been to Sturgis several times, both during bike week and "out of season". I tend to avoid the main towns and just ride around exploring while seeing the sights, it's just more my style!

 

[Fool Moon]

Check any ride out or ride of century footage and people focus on those doing the burnouts and wheelies.
Or the bikes that really stand out.

Always have been, and i even am somewhat guilty off it.
Why is simple, it sells

Some for bikini ladies
That is why some female motovloggers (not all) grow so big, change your sprocket or your oil in a bikini and bend over in front of the camera and you will have a viral vlog
Sad, but true.

unless you

Always have been, and i even am somewhat guilty off it.

you have to edit to tell some sort of visual story, if you don't it's a webcam footage and who cares about that. I post my day rides on the weekends to FB and youtube, and so often i decide how many bicyclists i want to keep in. 1, 5, all 150 i passed in the canyons? Maybe i'll run a saturday morning here when 100+ road bike are climbing the canyons and edit it so it looks like it's the Tour de France.

 

[Fool Moon]

Been to Sturgis several times, both during bike week and "out of season". I tend to avoid the main towns and just ride around exploring while seeing the sights, it's just more my style!

interested on how you traveled there, and how you lodged.
Black Hills are exceptional riding, Full Stop. So much room and great flowing roads. I feel any rider can have an amazing trip to their comfort. All party to quiet serenity, you pick.
We rode through Pringle on 395 and stopped at the Hitchrail Saloon, the only business at this intersection. We had quiet visit with just 4 other riders, did that a lot. Easy to avoid big tents and beer garden set ups here and there. I'll go back again.

 

[motosera]

Everyone selectively edits to show what they think viewers want. Whatever the subject.

I bet everyone here edits out fumbled words etc because people don't want to see it.

Its a sad/interesting commentary on society when a woman in bike or car related content will draw more views. So its unsurprising that content predominantly aimed at men will exploit that.

Should it be that way? No. Is it? Yes. And it kinda is what it is. Sadly.

 

[Fool Moon]

Everyone selectively edits to show what they think viewers want. Whatever the subject.

I bet everyone here edits out fumbled words etc because people don't want to see it.

Its a sad/interesting commentary on society when a woman in bike or car related content will draw more views. So its unsurprising that content predominantly aimed at men will exploit that.

Should it be that way? No. Is it? Yes. And it kinda is what it is. Sadly.

i selective edit every time i put together a video, how people use it effectively is fascinating to me. I keep going back to the Sturgis examples, but while so many people included the "bar girls" (scantly clad young women) in videos, in reality, you had to go to just a small handful of locations to see them all over the Black Hills. Namely big pop-up beer gardens, campsites and downtown streets of Sturgis and Deadwood. While included in the videos, i don't think they're why the videos were watched. the person was looking for content and there you go.

 

[City Bob]

Sex sells.... Bikini clad thumbnails and videos get more views. Just is what it is.

 

[Fool Moon]

Sex sells.... Bikini clad thumbnails and videos get more views. Just is what it is.

that's certainly true, esp when people are surfing youtube for clips to watch.
How do you like youtube content when you're looking up a place or event that you'll attend?
Along clips of butts and bikes, i feel if i watch a handful of things, i don't have a wonderful grasp of the full event, but i can cobble enough information that helps me plan.

 

[lupin]

Why would you not selective edit? Who wants to watch hours of somebody talking about things they are interested in.

Is your real concern here that you went to sturgis and didn't see what you wanted?

 

[Fool Moon]

Why would you not selective edit? Who wants to watch hours of somebody talking about things they are interested in.

Is your real concern here that you went to sturgis and didn't see what you wanted?

No, it's just a topic i think about when watch and editing videos. I stated before that without editing, it would be security cam boring footage and that i also pick and choose what i show on any video.

I wasn't disappointed at all in my trip to Sturgis or all the research i did on youtube before we rode out. My general comment ,to start a conversation ,was how comparing many like videos, you might see more about the event than just what they're showing you.
When the clips have hot bikes with strange and colorful people parading about, you also see crowd sizes, vendors and businesses, etc.

 

[lupin]

Think what you are referring to is basic advertising, not selective editing.

Its about not making life as boring as it actually is.

 

[scooterwuf]

If it bleeds it leads, as they say in the news industry. Selective editing has been the staple for newscast and editors for decades. Unfortunately, it leads to a misleading perception of an event. I’ve been to protest marches where those gathered numbered in the double digit thousands. In the local news cast they only showed the protesters feet as they walked and simply said that some protesters had gathered. If there’s a story about a drug problem, news stations typically show stock footage of the inner cities (in the US) while most people who buy and use drugs are from the suburbs (in the US).

Does this mean that the news is fake? No, but it is a business which over the years has shifted to pander to its own demographics and what they want to hear and see.

The same can be said for any YouTube channel. We do motovlogs, and not motodocs. As vlogs we express ourselves from our POV, whether in a realistic or stylistic approach. Do some cross the line with click bait icons, sexualize footage, or a high abundance of crash videos? That’s to be debated, but for some their channel is a business with the focus of getting eyes on the screen. For others it’s about sharing their passion for riding, or showing the experience of where they’ve been, or how they’ll get there.

The best thing is we get choose what to see, and skip over the channels we don’t.

-Wolf

 

[Moto Mengy]

interested on how you traveled there, and how you lodged.

I stuck to the interstates, all highway. Rapid City KOA is 1720 miles from my house and I can make it there in two hard days of pounding the highways, riding through bad weather and all. Camped in tents at the Rapid City KOA every time, they have a nice one there.

 

[Fool Moon]

I stuck to the interstates, all highway. Rapid City KOA is 1720 miles from my house and I can make it there in two hard days of pounding the highways, riding through bad weather and all. Camped in tents at the Rapid City KOA every time, they have a nice one there.

As we rode out of California across Nevada, we encountered our first riders going to SD. Along the way we met more and more interstate riders and one thing was very clear; Going or NOT GOING, everybody was very aware of the Rally and how close they would get. It has it's own gravity and i liked that about the event.

We stayed in Lead, which is a cute town.