Rant Stupid Uk Licensing Laws

Start with searching for DVSA notifiable conditions for starters, also Google "assisted driving test". You may also be able to phone, but search "contact driving standards agency" not DVSA.
 
all my conditions are all reddy known by dvla they have never mentioned about them making any difference my brain damage is the only one that needed to be declared and i have all ready had my cognitive assessment but no were dose it say that im entitled to any different form of testing then any one else.
 
Most licensing rules are heavily decided on due to revenue, not what is better for the public. They go under the guise of safety, but ultimately, they just want profit. Our speeds and road rules here in Oz havnt been reviewed for almost 50 years, seatbelts were not in most cars and they were big solid steel, heavy deathtraps. There is more risk of injury due to still keeping such low speed limits etc. There is a big push here for us to have them changed to be relevant to the quality of our vehicles, but as like other times it has tried to happen, its shoved aside as they know they will lose revenue.
 
Chunky - I'm sure i remember seeing that you can ask for special consideration when you do a test, I don't believe there's an off the shelf special test you can do.

Take deafness as an example. You might need a sign language person in the front seat to relay the communication. The examiners will have a way of accommodating requirements, but they need to know beforehand. You may have been better with your instructor relaying information to you, I don't know the circumstances but it's likely that it could have been arranged so that it was better for you.
 
Chunk, I am a specialist/expert in risk and I can just give you a few counter-points to what you brought up.
  • Firstly, yes younger riders are more dangerous. Overconfident BIAS: Believing they have better abilities than they have. Statistically proven.
  • More aggressive and unable to control their temper, red mist.
  • Familiarity Bias: Because you have spent a long time riding a bike you start to perceive the risk of an accident to yourself being lower than it actually is.
  • Conversely if you have experienced an accident you perceive the danger of having another accident to be greater than it actually is. This BIAS lasts just long enough for you to become confident again... then you may become over confident again "familiarity bias".
  • Bigger bikes in general are certainty not in anyway easier to ride, they maybe be smoother and more comfortable. Yes some 125s might do 100 mph but they are the exception not the rule.
  • Try bringing a litre sports bike on full chat to an emergency stop safely in the wet .....and the speeds that you corner at are ballistic compared to the smaller bikers, with some bikes having 200 bhp and using every electronic aid to keep them upright. You could die very quickly if you think that bigger bikes are as safe.
  • You will in all probability be a more skillful rider than most CBT riders due to experience but dont be over confident, and your experience is limited to a 125cc. That does not count for much on the big bad ass bikes. Every biker who buys a bigger bike scares themselves once. That's when many sell them.
  • Bigger bikes are much more dangerous Chunks, that's why they kill so many young riders and born again bikers.
  • Very experienced sports bikes riders die on Sundays in summer due to overconfidence:
    • Failing to negotiate a left hand bend
    • Failure to negotiate a right hand bend
If you want to become safer, even though you may think you already are (which is a danger in its self) go and do a Bike Safe, IAM or Rospa once you pass your test.

I am a Rospa Gold Holder on a ZZR and I certainly take time to realise that I am at risk from over confidence, I certainly don't hang about, but I choose where and when very very carefully. I ride up to every junction, roundabout and bend positioning thinking about the hazards. It just comes naturally now and I think its part of the fun of riding.
 
Here's a link where a forum member realises his bike is a bit much for him, and he has (I presume) a full licence. Just food for thought.

https://motovlog.com/threads/this-h...ike-is-than-my-skill-level.12405/#post-110642

I've just gone from a 647cc 55hp machine to a 1050cc 123hp machine, the difference is huge, and I don't think I'd have been wise if I'd bought the 1050 straight after my test - and my instructors said I was one of the most solid and safe learners they'd had in a long time.

Shifty's post make 100% sense, and is absolutely bang on.
 
Shifty said:
Chunk, I am a specialist/expert in risk and I can just give you a few counter-points to what you brought up.
  • Firstly, yes younger riders are more dangerous. Overconfident BIAS: Believing they have better abilities than they have. Statistically proven.
  • More aggressive and unable to control their temper, red mist.
  • Familiarity Bias: Because you have spent a long time riding a bike you start to perceive the risk of an accident to yourself being lower than it actually is.
  • Conversely if you have experienced an accident you perceive the danger of having another accident to be greater than it actually is. This BIAS lasts just long enough for you to become confident again... then you may become over confident again "familiarity bias".
  • Bigger bikes in general are certainty not in anyway easier to ride, they maybe be smoother and more comfortable. Yes some 125s might do 100 mph but they are the exception not the rule.
  • Try bringing a litre sports bike on full chat to an emergency stop safely in the wet .....and the speeds that you corner at are ballistic compared to the smaller bikers, with some bikes having 200 bhp and using every electronic aid to keep them upright. You could die very quickly if you think that bigger bikes are as safe.
  • You will in all probability be a more skillful rider than most CBT riders due to experience but dont be over confident, and your experience is limited to a 125cc. That does not count for much on the big bad ass bikes. Every biker who buys a bigger bike scares themselves once. That's when many sell them.
  • Bigger bikes are much more dangerous Chunks, that's why they kill so many young riders and born again bikers.
  • Very experienced sports bikes riders die on Sundays in summer due to overconfidence:
    • Failing to negotiate a left hand bend
    • Failure to negotiate a right hand bend
If you want to become safer, even though you may think you already are (which is a danger in its self) go and do a Bike Safe, IAM or Rospa once you pass your test.

I am a Rospa Gold Holder on a ZZR and I certainly take time to realise that I am at risk from over confidence, I certainly don't hang about, but I choose where and when very very carefully. I ride up to every junction, roundabout and bend positioning thinking about the hazards. It just comes naturally now and I think its part of the fun of riding.
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overconfidence is a killer i get that but im not being over confident i just know my limitations i have ridden plenty of bikes the last cbt i done they allowed me to ride a 750 and it was grate fun it had alot more power then my little 125 but at no point did i feel unsafe i found the clutch control a lot easyer true i never opened it up but i don't ride like that i be leave in respecting things i don't raggit about i grew out of that many years ago
 
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