MAG Protest ride 24th June

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Wannabie Member
Jul 23, 2011
Oldham - UK
I ride a
Granny in a dark alley...
Carkeh said:
And yet, getting a car when you're 17 is also something that is extremely difficult. You'd be lucky to get any form of insurance less than £2k for your first car now-a-days.

Ford Focus 1.8 T reg worth about £500. The highest quotes was £25,985. The cheapest was £6000


Wannabie Member
May 14, 2012
I ride a
Kawasaki Ninja 250r
Why do insurance companies bother quoting £25k, who in their right mind would pay that!? Lmao


Wannabie Member
Feb 22, 2012
I ride a
R1200GS Adventure
Classic mini 1.3l insurance £800 tpft

BMW R1200GS Adventure TP only £1200

Some executive somewhere is pretty darn happy with me :(


Wannabie Member
Nov 22, 2012
I ride a
NC 700XA
We've had this phased license system in portugal since forever, and while painfull, it does work.

Our original system was 125cc, 15hp from ages 16 up (A1 license),
then from 18 you could get an AL (A Limited) license of maximum of 25 KW (33hp), untill ONE of the following occured:
- You had 2 years with and "A" license (both the 125cc and the unlimited cc license apply for this).
- You were over 21, AND did a test on a bike with more than 35KW of power (46hp)
So you could get a BMW S1000RR on your 18th birthday, IF you had passed your A license on your 16th birthday.

It worked well - you could jumpstart to big bikes pretty easily. (remeber, over 21 = straight into bike bikes license).

I believe this new intermediate (A2; 48hp)license is a good idea. A good little detail is that you cannot restrict a bike to more than half its HP - no taking an R1 and then restricing it to 48hp. THis is because the people that drafted this know full well how restricting bike's power is: You restrict it, get it approved, and then when it leaves the shop it magically becomes unrestricted.

Opened up a huge new market for intermediate CC bikes - CB500s, NC700s, the 250s... And the other makers are bound to jump on the 48hp bandwagon. Even limited 600ccs; as long as they don't have originally more than 100hp. (Yamaha XJ6s Kawa XJ6, honda CB600s....).
And prevented 18 year olds from wrapping themselves around trees while riding 150hp monsters....
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