A Video Of Mine Is Garnering A Lot Of Hate?

[Toma Rider]

Are you allowed to link videos here? I don't want to break any rules so I won't, but it can be found easily on my channel, has the most views by far.

The problem is, is this a good thing? I don't want a bunch of haters on my channel, but I think the video's content is valid. If it were you, would you take it down?

 

[scooterwuf]

You’re criticizing a guy who has a huge following of subscribers, so it’s not surprising that you’re going to get a lot of flack. The guy sounds (or at least his content does) pretty shallow, and superficial.

I’d suggest rather than being critical of how he runs his channel, just announce that you are unsubscribing from him, and list the reasons why (pretty much like you did in your video). End your video by showing you hitting the unsubscribe button and then waving bye-bye.

-Wuf

 

[lupin]

You basically made a hate video what did you expect.

If you call out someone naturally their supporters will come to their defence, even if you are right and they are wrong.

Its also your most viewed video by a long way, so maybe embrace the hate and call out some of the other motovloggers and create a channel about that, if you're that kind of guy.

 

[Toma Rider]

You basically made a hate video what did you expect.

If you call out someone naturally their supporters will come to their defence, even if you are right and they are wrong.

Its also your most viewed video by a long way, so maybe embrace the hate and call out some of the other motovloggers and create a channel about that, if you're that kind of guy.

When I made the video I wasn't intending for any focus to be misdirected from the clickbait argument, but everyone watching I guess just assumes I don't like SnewJ or something.

I was thinking of changing the title to have (NO HATE!) instead of (CALL OUT). And I don't actually like criticizing people this one was tough for me. Don't know if I could base a channel off of the idea

 

[burlyjack]

YouTube doesn't need more callout videos, especially not the motovlogging community. My dad use to always tell me "If you run your mouth be prepared to get hit". However if you're wanting your 15 mins of fame then by all means call people out, after all it's your channel you can post whatever opinion you want . Just be aware you probably won't get a very positive following.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

if you're that kind of guy.

100%
We are all entitled to our opinion but if you vent yours and get hate, then it is brought upon by yourself. If you have a very low sub count and vent about a popular tuber I feel it is either naive or contrived.... I'm personally not going to watch this video you have posted as 1 I have no idea who the chap is you are commenting about and 2 I jump to the conclusion that you have posted a drama vid purely for the intention of getting views. I vlog to be part of a community, sure views are good as is feedback but I am actually interested in biking in different places and the people that ride bikes. I am sick of the clickbait and sick of the old news hate towards a has been youtuber (Yammie Noob or whatever his name is) and I couldn't give a fart if someone with 10 subs tries to promote themselves by slating some one who has thousands of subs/views.
If a person wants to be interesting then they should possibly concentrate on their own rides and biking experiences rather than putting down others.
Just my opinion (no hate) lol

 

[SighBored]

Did you take the video down? I don't see it, or I'm probably blind. Anyway, as others have said, you have all the freedom in the world to give your opinion about some other guy, but it's the same for others to give their opinion about your opinion.. You either take it as good as you give it, or don't bother to start it at all.

Some people just follow in the expectations that the flame war will be entertaining, and if you stop, they'll call you a wuss for backing down and drop you from their following.

 

[Toma Rider]

Did you take the video down? I don't see it, or I'm probably blind. Anyway, as others have said, you have all the freedom in the world to give your opinion about some other guy, but it's the same for others to give their opinion about your opinion.. You either take it as good as you give it, or don't bother to start it at all.

Some people just follow in the expectations that the flame war will be entertaining, and if you stop, they'll call you a wuss for backing down and drop you from their following.

I listed it as private, I don't want the kind of hate I'm getting to affect my channel

 

[Dark Rider]

So you made a video calling someone out and but didn't expect to get any kind of flak for it??

My personal view on that type of video is that you are piggy backing off someone elses channel success to grab some views...You may say otherwise but ultimately that was the main reason.

Just like all the other small channels did when Yammie Noob crashed or when there was Dan beef and all the other bs videos.

Sorry dude but no sympathy from me.

Upside is that now people might know more about you and your channel and some of those views might stay and sub to you.

 

[R-Rated]

Perhaps a way to go about it is not to call out a person but rather call out the unwanted behavior(s).

There used to be a show in the US called Dragnet. It was filmed in black and white. Every episode began essentially telling the audience that what they were about to see was something real but names and places were changed to protect identities.

This allowed folks to save face and focus on the problems.

Now as far as airing your displeasure with someone on this website, if the administration are OK with it and it aids by rules, then you could possibly discuss it here in writing.

I am not going to name anyone in specific on this thread but there is such a discussion taking place over time. So it can occur and play by the rules.

 

[Toma Rider]

Perhaps a way to go about it is not to call out a person but rather call out the unwanted behavior(s).

There used to be a show in the US called Dragnet. It was filmed in black and white. Every episode began essentially telling the audience that what they were about to see was something real but names and places were changed to protect identities.

This allowed folks to save face and focus on the problems.

Now as far as airing your displeasure with someone on this website, if the administration are OK with it and it aids by rules, then you could possibly discuss it here in writing.

I am not going to name anyone in specific on this thread but there is such a discussion taking place over time. So it can occur and play by the rules.

I like that idea! What do you think a good approach to take is when citing examples? That would be the tough thing to handle

 

[R-Rated]

I like that idea! What do you think a good approach to take is when citing examples? That would be the tough thing to handle

Thank you by the way because your situation has helped me reflect how to best approach the other issue too.

OK, so to call out an undesirable behavior I have seen some make a serious video addressing the problem straight on. That may work some but think of social media as like this, folks want to be entertained too.

So what is more entertaining than comedy or satire? Didn't many playwriters engage in that in order to make a point?

I read that your issue was about folks making shallow click bait content. So how does that make you "feel"? You could take an emotion like if it made you feel it wasted your time. Spin it with satire and do a short video titled something like, "the hidden danger of shallow videos"

The scene is some one sitting at their computer and they exclaim, "wow, this motovloger says that by watching this video, it will change my life!" They click the mouse several times.

Title card reads SEVERAL CLICKS LATER...

Then the person has visibly aged. One of their friends ask what they learned from the click bait - here is where you sell the audience.

The aged character says something like, "time is too precious and that all that glimmers is not good on YouTube."

If you wanted to push the edge a little, you could dedicate the video to folks like the one you see engaging in the unwanted behavior the most. Heck you could even make just flash as a credit on the screen just for a second at the end so you know it is there.

 

[Jafnhaar]

Hi All,

Toma Rider... Are you still getting messages?

All I'd add is for next time do a similar video but dont mention any names or anything to link to anything your talking about...

As in just mention.. " The thing i hate is when motovloggers do this, that..."

So your video could be titled: "Hate it when Motovloggers do this"

This may stop the backlash from followers of the person your mentioning because you havent mentioned them this time round (Y)

 

[Toma Rider]

Thank you by the way because your situation has helped me reflect how to best approach the other issue too.

OK, so to call out an undesirable behavior I have seen some make a serious video addressing the problem straight on. That may work some but think of social media as like this, folks want to be entertained too.

So what is more entertaining than comedy or satire? Didn't many playwriters engage in that in order to make a point?

I read that your issue was about folks making shallow click bait content. So how does that make you "feel"? You could take an emotion like if it made you feel it wasted your time. Spin it with satire and do a short video titled something like, "the hidden danger of shallow videos"

The scene is some one sitting at their computer and they exclaim, "wow, this motovloger says that by watching this video, it will change my life!" They click the mouse several times.

Title card reads SEVERAL CLICKS LATER...

Then the person has visibly aged. One of their friends ask what they learned from the click bait - here is where you sell the audience.

The aged character says something like, "time is too precious and that all that glimmers is not good on YouTube."

If you wanted to push the edge a little, you could dedicate the video to folks like the one you see engaging in the unwanted behavior the most. Heck you could even make just flash as a credit on the screen just for a second at the end so you know it is there.

I'm pretty sarcastic so I like this idea I just wrote up a script and pitched it to my buddy

 

[Toma Rider]

Hi All,

Toma Rider... Are you still getting messages?

All I'd add is for next time do a similar video but dont mention any names or anything to link to anything your talking about...

As in just mention.. " The thing i hate is when motovloggers do this, that..."

So your video could be titled: "Hate it when Motovloggers do this"

This may stop the backlash from followers of the person your mentioning because you havent mentioned them this time round (Y)

Yeah this was my mistake... gotta attack the problem, not the person! I've got a new idea for a video so stay tuned! Welcome btw!

 

[Jafnhaar]

Yeah this was my mistake... gotta attack the problem, not the person! I've got a new idea for a video so stay tuned! Welcome btw!

Excited to see it!! On the positive side (think it was mentioned) it is your highest viewed video so now your in the spotlight for bigger and better things!!!

 

[Toma Rider]

So an interesting development... The video titles in question that I called out were actually changed to more benign versions. Looks like my activism worked!

I made a new follow up video talking about this and hopefully diffusing any ill will towards me for my last one. I think several of you thought I was just trying to piggyback with buzzwords, but my main goal was actually to bring about change, if you can believe me. Thanks for the advice everyone! I appreciate your thoughts and time

 

[JScrambler]

What did you expect?

 

[Toma Rider]

What did you expect?

I figured people would agree with me LOL. You live and you learn I guess... I figured people would look at the facts I was stating, but they all just called me a jealous hater because I have a low sub count. Anyway, I guess it was an interesting experiment

 

[JScrambler]

I figured people would agree with me LOL. You live and you learn I guess... I figured people would look at the facts I was stating, but they all just called me a jealous hater because I have a low sub count. Anyway, I guess it was an interesting experiment

I agree with what you said. I hate click bait also well, but it works to get views. It seems like people will jump down your throat if you speak ill of their favorite vlogger.