80cc Big bore kits?

[josh94zz]

Hey Guys I was just wandering when you bore your scooter Do you have to have a big bore kit specific to your Make/model of your scooter as im want to bore mine out to 80cc from a 50cc as its Works out cheaper then reboring my Barrel and getting a new piston and small end bearing as my piston is cracked And whoever had the barrel rebored before i had the scooter Put the Old piston back in Meaning it needs doing again So All in all its works out cheaper to buy the 80 kit and ill get a little bit more speed out of it so any Help Would be greatly aprreciated

 

[Bloke]

You'll no longer be insured or licenced and you'll be forever known as pedboi. Only need a tracksuit and you'll be perfectly suited for the national statistics report on road accidents.

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[josh94zz]

You'll no longer be insured or licenced and you'll be forever known as pedboi. Only need a tracksuit and you'll be perfectly suited for the national statistics report on road accidents.

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hahaha xD ill let my insurance know and if i have to i will Pay more and why wouldnt i be licenced? And i will never Wear a tracksuit!

 

[Chessecake94]

Do you have a 50cc cbt or 125cbt???

 

[AZZ3R]

Do you have a 50cc cbt or 125cbt???

Nothing to do with what you take or pass on.

I was 17 when I did my CBT I did it on a 50cc scooter to make sure I passed first time and then bought a geared bike.

if your 16 your only allowed 50cc
if your 17 your allowed anything upto 125cc

Until you pass your test which is another load of complications


Why try and change the power of it when it's only going to be a stepping stone for biking, you'll be on a 125 before you know it.

or just wait untill your 17 and buy a geard bike.

Buy a bike that doesn't need work doing to it only looks, anything performance/power increase insurers will rip you a new one.

Leave it as it is & stick to the rules/law & you will never have a problem or have to worry.

 

[Chessecake94]

Ah, I never realised that, I went straight to my full test when I was 17.

 

[josh94zz]

im 17 so i can ride a 125cc and The reason i want to upgrade it to an 80cc is because it is cheaper than Buying a new Piston and getting the barrel rebored and a small end bearing and i cant afford to get a 125 right now and because the moped was given to me for free im not really spending to much on it , it also doesnt run at the minute because it needs the new piston (old 1 was cracked and rings where knackered) and the small end bearing needs replacing and with the barrel needing a rebore a Shop told me that it was cheaper just to buy a full new kit so i could either buy a new 50cc kit or Get the 80cc kit if i can find 1 ( depending on whether or not they are Moped Specfic) and the insurance shouldnt be too bad as im the named driver on my dads insurance so ill just pay a little bit extra

 

[AZZ3R]

so i could either buy a new 50cc kit

Do this, Because when you come to sell it, the buyer will know if you have messed around with it, you will also have to go through the trouble of telling the DVLA about the performace upgrade so they then have to change the V5.

insurance shouldnt be too bad as im the named driver on my dads insurance so ill just pay a little bit extra

if you can get off your Dads insurance do it, the sooner you start to build up your own NCB the better you will be in the long run.

 

[josh94zz]

so i could either buy a new 50cc kit

Do this, Because when you come to sell it, the buyer will know if you have messed around with it, you will also have to go through the trouble of telling the DVLA about the performace upgrade so they then have to change the V5.

insurance shouldnt be too bad as im the named driver on my dads insurance so ill just pay a little bit extra

if you can get off your Dads insurance do it, the sooner you start to build up your own NCB the better you will be in the long run.

fair enough

 

[Friz]

If youre a named driver on your dads insurance for the scooter, but you use the scooter more than your dad that's called fronting and thats illegal.

 

[gpzDave]

If youre a named driver on your dads insurance for the scooter, but you use the scooter more than your dad that's called fronting and thats illegal.

Friz is right, sooner you get your own policy the better anyway. NCB is very beneficial in the long run.

 

[Bloke]

My bad, thought you were 16 didn't understand why you had a 50 otherwise

As the others have said, get the 50 kit, get on your own insurance, fronting being fraud it's a serious offence, not just points and fine. More custodial sentence and criminal record.

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[ToySoldier]

bore it depending what the bike is you should be able to get a bore i bored out my 50 to a 70 as it gives out more power and this was when i was 16 and the police dont really do anything as 50cc and 70cc not really a difrence to warren there time and effort filling out paper work.

beeing as his name is josh94zz i guessed you wer born in 1994 like me and cheescake i was going to do my licence straght away when i turned 17 but decited i wanted a dt125 so bought that rather then rideing a 70 around when i was 17 and all of my mates are riding 125s so no really point upgrading really big straght away.

and as evryone is going on about the law and that if you passed your cbt on a auto u are only coverd to ride a auto unless u take a cbt again on a geard as you havent been trained to use gears same as if u take your car or bike licence on a auto u stay with auto's but police and most outhers dont cear as its trivial.



so i say bore it and ride it and if anyhting u will sell it easyer then if it was a 50 as all 16 year olds looking for peds are looking for a 70 or 80 as there quicker then 50s
but u could allways tell dvla for the £25 (i think) admin fee then tell insureance it shouldnt go up to much then u are alll legal

 

[CurlyBlakey]

That's clap-trap, i did my CBT on a 50 twist and go and transferred up. There is only one CBT, it makes no difference what you do it on.

Fronting is fraud and you need to get your own insurance. I can't stress that enough.

ToySoldier, saying all the stuff you have in your post isn't the worlds best idea ever.

 

[lauriejennifer]

If you are in love with the scoot and couldn't imagine ever parting with it, even after you get something bigger/better some day, then do whatever you want to it. Bore to your heart's content.

If you don't feel terribly attached to it and plan on using it as a trade-in for a different bike at some point down the line, then keep it stock as much as possible.

That's my $.02, but I'm not sure what your exchange rate it over there.

 

[ToySoldier]

i did the same mate im just saying what iv been told by a few cbt places because my 50cc was a geard 50cc and i was traind on a auto i asked he said no u need a auto as if you read your cbt it will have tick box saying did you train gears mine was not ticked witch means i shouldent be rideing a geard bike but im takeing my test and no way am i re doing a cbt and wasting £100 odd.

i agree get your own insureance its best to build up your ncb for when u wont a big bike 1 or 2 years ncb makes a huge difrence.

riding a bike isn't the worlds best idea thou isit but rideing a 50cc is a worse idea they dont have the power to do anything cars are allways trying to over take you and myself i was almost ramed onto the pavement twice then i was and had to ride up onto a crossing as a bus tryed to overtake me up a hill arfter that i got my 70 big bore raceing reeds and a full raceing exhaust it made the bike faster coped with the hill i had to ride up every easyer and was loude and noice so i could be heard

 

[josh94zz]

That's clap-trap, i did my CBT on a 50 twist and go and transferred up. There is only one CBT, it makes no difference what you do it on.

Fronting is fraud and you need to get your own insurance. I can't stress that enough.

ToySoldier, saying all the stuff you have in your post isn't the worlds best idea ever.

What is fronting? i havent heard of it before

 

[josh94zz]

If you are in love with the scoot and couldn't imagine ever parting with it, even after you get something bigger/better some day, then do whatever you want to it. Bore to your heart's content.

If you don't feel terribly attached to it and plan on using it as a trade-in for a different bike at some point down the line, then keep it stock as much as possible.

That's my $.02, but I'm not sure what your exchange rate it over there.

i am gonna trade it so i think i shall stick with your advice and Keep it stock so as soon as monday rolls round i shall take the piston, cyllinder and small end bearing to my local Bike shop and Get me a new kit

 

[CurlyBlakey]

That's clap-trap, i did my CBT on a 50 twist and go and transferred up. There is only one CBT, it makes no difference what you do it on.

Fronting is fraud and you need to get your own insurance. I can't stress that enough.

ToySoldier, saying all the stuff you have in your post isn't the worlds best idea ever.

What is fronting? i havent heard of it before

Please read the rest of the thread where a lot of people have explained that for you.

 

[josh94zz]

That's clap-trap, i did my CBT on a 50 twist and go and transferred up. There is only one CBT, it makes no difference what you do it on.

Fronting is fraud and you need to get your own insurance. I can't stress that enough.

ToySoldier, saying all the stuff you have in your post isn't the worlds best idea ever.

What is fronting? i havent heard of it before

Please read the rest of the thread where a lot of people have explained that for you.

oh yea my bad i missed friz post sorry