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TreizeRXH

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I have a Sena 10c that can do both (just not 60fps at 1080p unfortunately). I was wondering what everyone thought about filming between these two settings.

I'm still learning and trying to figure out what works best for Youtube
 
thunderous71 said:
I would go for the higher res in this case but if you had 1080p @ 60fps that is so awesome ;) It just so much smoother.
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Of course that'd be great lol but unfortunately Sena had to make a compromise somewhere with the 10c. But I'm willing to deal with it given such an easy to use and almost complete package. The only other drawback I can think of is that the intercom can only pair with 4 other people where as the 20s can do 8.

Really excited to see if the next Gen 10c will have 1080p 60fps or even 120fps! That'd be something
 
60fps is a lot harder for a machine to render, it's also harder for older laptops to view on Youtube. My Macbook Pro is only about 5 years old and it's still pretty fast, however, modern codecs render it fruitless as is simply cannot handle some of them. So I'd be weary about 60fps all the time. It also shows more wobble, where as 24/30fps doesn't due to less frames. Industry standard for movies is 24, I personally think it's a lot better and nicer to work with. Same goes for 30fps. What you could do is record in 60fps and render in 30, that'd be great, it'd pick up more motion but have a jittery look (which will mimic most movies/most new tv shows).
 
b9y said:
60fps is a lot harder for a machine to render, it's also harder for older laptops to view on Youtube. My Macbook Pro is only about 5 years old and it's still pretty fast, however, modern codecs render it fruitless as is simply cannot handle some of them. So I'd be weary about 60fps all the time. It also shows more wobble, where as 24/30fps doesn't due to less frames. Industry standard for movies is 24, I personally think it's a lot better and nicer to work with. Same goes for 30fps. What you could do is record in 60fps and render in 30, that'd be great, it'd pick up more motion but have a jittery look (which will mimic most movies/most new tv shows).
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Curious. I just checked out your channel, is that what you did on your "Happy new year..." vid? I do like the way it came out visually (at work so I can't listen to any audio atm)
 
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1080p30 is easily the better option if it's going onto YouTube as the 60fps bitrates are pretty poor on there, especially at 720p.
 
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TreizeRXH said:
Curious. I just checked out your channel, is that what you did on your "Happy new year..." vid? I do like the way it came out visually (at work so I can't listen to any audio atm)
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I believe I did it in 24fps as I normally do. I think one of them is 60fps converted to 30 but honest to god I can't remember! You'll have to watch them all!

....only joking.


...but no seriously I'm poor and need money for pie.
 
b9y said:
I believe I did it in 24fps as I normally do. I think one of them is 60fps converted to 30 but honest to god I can't remember! You'll have to watch them all!

....only joking.


...but no seriously I'm poor and need money for pie.
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If it helps I've subbed and watched a few videos. Not because of this post though, it's because you made me giggle.
 
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TreizeRXH said:
I have a Sena 10c that can do both (just not 60fps at 1080p unfortunately). I was wondering what everyone thought about filming between these two settings.

I'm still learning and trying to figure out what works best for Youtube
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Decide what look youre going for in your vlog overall.

Cinematic? 24/30fps.
More realisitic, ultra smooth, less film-like? 60fps.

Frames per second not only helps define the look by the motion blur, etc, more frames per second - better slow mo BUT large file sizes.
There's a ton to think about etc etc, but those are the 2 basics I share when I asked about why I choose frame rates in filmmaking, etc.
 
I would go with 720P@60FPS
thats what I use in my Roam2
 
CPFilms said:
Decide what look youre going for in your vlog overall.

Cinematic? 24/30fps.
More realisitic, ultra smooth, less film-like? 60fps.

Frames per second not only helps define the look by the motion blur, etc, more frames per second - better slow mo BUT large file sizes.
There's a ton to think about etc etc, but those are the 2 basics I share when I asked about why I choose frame rates in filmmaking, etc.
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You also need to factor in how YouTube compression is pretty poor at 60fps and that you get much worse low light performance on action cameras with 60fps.
 
SwissMotard said:
You also need to factor in how YouTube compression is pretty poor at 60fps and that you get much worse low light performance on action cameras with 60fps.
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I did get a chance to do some low light level recordings finally and, yes, it is pretty crappy. Things are much less detailed.

I like the motion at 60fps, but recording everything at 720 just drives me crazy (the clarity is just not there like 1080). I'm wondering if there are any other production tweeks you can do to help improve the video quality before posting it? (not that 1080p 30fps is producing bad video, just always looking for an extra boost).
 
Here's a quick note, Treize.
When you record at higher frame rates, less light gets to the sensor, so at dusk, darkness that creates a much lesser quality image.
I personally prefer the look of 24fps. I am a filmmaker and thats what my editing timelines are based at 24fps (well 23.98 but thats just math LOL) and all my footage, regardless if its captured at higher 60fps or 30fps, is conformed to the 24fps, I just like that film look.

When say "extra boost" what do you mean? More life like, etc? or?
 
CPFilms said:
Here's a quick note, Treize.
When you record at higher frame rates, less light gets to the sensor, so at dusk, darkness that creates a much lesser quality image.
I personally prefer the look of 24fps. I am a filmmaker and thats what my editing timelines are based at 24fps (well 23.98 but thats just math LOL) and all my footage, regardless if its captured at higher 60fps or 30fps, is conformed to the 24fps, I just like that film look.

When say "extra boost" what do you mean? More life like, etc? or?
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As a film maker surely you know that you shouldn't be down sampling 60/30fps content to 24 as you will get weird uneven frame skipping issues (like how watching 24fps films on a 60Hz screen looks nasty) as they're not multiples of 24.
 
CPFilms said:
Here's a quick note, Treize.
When you record at higher frame rates, less light gets to the sensor, so at dusk, darkness that creates a much lesser quality image.
I personally prefer the look of 24fps. I am a filmmaker and thats what my editing timelines are based at 24fps (well 23.98 but thats just math LOL) and all my footage, regardless if its captured at higher 60fps or 30fps, is conformed to the 24fps, I just like that film look.

When say "extra boost" what do you mean? More life like, etc? or?
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Well, i don't know lol. Seeing as how I'm still new to video editing there's a lot I don't know about what can be done when working on a recording. Plus I don't exactly have the best software to use (currently am using Windows Movie Maker). I'd love to find something better, but I don't have hundred to splurge on software right now
 
SwissMotard said:
As a film maker surely you know that you shouldn't be down sampling 60/30fps content to 24 as you will get weird uneven frame skipping issues (like how watching 24fps films on a 60Hz screen looks nasty) as they're not multiples of 24.
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You are correct, but FCPX handles mixed frame rates like a pro, as does Premiere, no skippy jumpy, but I know what youre referring to.
 
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