getting started/ kickstarter?

OtisENGINEuity

OtisENGINEuity

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Hey guys & girls, I just wanted to post and ask if you guys thought it would be alright/successful for me to make a kickstarter or indigogo to try to get the funds together to start my channel, including getting a bike and gear. Now before you go bashing me let me explain a bit. First off I'm in Northern California where no one else does it, and I've been out of a job for 8 years now and I'm hoping it (youtube) might bring in enough money just to allow me to pay my fuel/insurance/maintenance bills. I'm somewhat disabled thanks to back issues (I'm 6'9 with scoliosis/kyphosis of the spine) and I'm hoping it will help me gain a bit of confidence and help me with my depression and stuff.
Believe me I don't feel right asking anyone for anything, it goes against... well I guess my pride but I thought that was beat out of me growing up... but I can't do it on my own and I haven't been able to figure out a "normal" job that I can do without worrying about idiots/hate and what it will do to my mental state.. A-holes online I can deal with, people in person I can't. Also all the jobs I wanted to do (welding, auto body, mechanic, large equipment opp) are not available to me thanks to my back and military is out of the picture as well.
Please let me know what you think, if you think the community as a whole would be cool with it and if I could make that kind of money.
The cool part would be it'd all go towards bike stuff and you'd get to see it all from the start. From MSF course (yes I don't know how to ride at all, haven't even packed in 14 years) through me riding around here and potentially even a track day at Thunderhill Raceway in Willows if I got good enough. (hell if I got the money i might even buy my dad's 1965 Triumph T120C from him, videos of that bike on my youtube already) /user/OtisENGINEuity
 
I would probably make an indiegogo thing if I did it. Please post and tell me what you think. Believe me, if I had another option I would be following it up but I don't. That's not to say i wouldn't enjoy making videos. There's hundreds of miles of great foothills roads around here that'd I'd love to video but that takes something that gets a bit better than 11mpg.
 
im not to sure of the kick starter or indiegogo but have u tried and overnight desk job. i work 11-7 at a hotel im by myself all night just waiting for people to walk in for late night check ins. most the time i just sit on my laptop and watch vlogs or messing around on facebook. its a really easy job if u can stay up all night
 
Dunno if you will get the money, But theres only one way to find out

But as lightup said, Check for desk work man, There must be something out there
 
If you've got good roads and you know there are bikes / cars / issues around there, take your video camera and tripoid and the bus, along with a pack lunch and some extra batteries and memory cards, and find a good spot. Rnickeymouse has done exactly that and is hugely popular, probably earning hundreds each month, if not thousands, from just Sunday work. Develop your own style and video editing techniques to make quality product, and I'm sure you will get the hits if you are in the right spot getting the good footage.

Buying broken electronic gadgets off the internet, refurbishing them and reselling them is also a good sideline if you are good with your hands and instructions. Or offer your services to fix other people's small stuff if they send it to you, so you don;t need to leave home much, just have to haqve a good administrative system to keep tabs on everything and ensure you provide a good service and product.

Then you may be able to afford a bike that fits your needs and do some personal motovlogging. Best wishes.
 
O8ride said:
If you've got good roads and you know there are bikes / cars / issues around there, take your video camera and tripoid and the bus, along with a pack lunch and some extra batteries and memory cards, and find a good spot. Rnickeymouse has done exactly that and is hugely popular, probably earning hundreds each month, if not thousands, from just Sunday work. Develop your own style and video editing techniques to make quality product, and I'm sure you will get the hits if you are in the right spot getting the good footage.

Buying broken electronic gadgets off the internet, refurbishing them and reselling them is also a good sideline if you are good with your hands and instructions. Or offer your services to fix other people's small stuff if they send it to you, so you don;t need to leave home much, just have to haqve a good administrative system to keep tabs on everything and ensure you provide a good service and product.

Then you may be able to afford a bike that fits your needs and do some personal motovlogging. Best wishes.
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Yeah the roads are nice but not all that many people drive them. That's the thing is that I live in the middle of nowhere 10 miles outside of Beale AFB in Northern California and the best, most fun, roads are up in the foothills. If you get off the highway there's a 400 mile circuit within 15 minutes of my house as the crow flies. And that's just one route and close by. There are so many different turns, routes to take, and different destinations to explore I think there'd be a lot to film and share with everyone. Not everyone understands what it is really like here in California and I'd like to share that.. Plus this time of year its great to get up in the hills, the higher you go up, the cooler it is :P And it was 112F here the other day at 50ft of elevation.

I will look in to the other stuff, hell I don't sleep at night as it is.

I wonder if there's a good way to film night scenes... it'd be kind of cool to be able to go out and literally show the night life around here. There's lots of cool animals including martens. One night on the way home from college I was even able to sit and watch a fox chasing a mouse or something in the field... for over 20 minutes, just sat there and watched him in the headlights of my truck.
 
I see you just joined the forum today. Welcome to Motovlog.

In all honestly, I doubt you will get enough funds to buy a motorcycle and gear and for the safety course all through the generosity of strangers unless you have the hookups with someone really popular that passes your story along to their following. Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. There's the start up costs and then the running costs of keeping it running and maintained. Youtube also takes a lot of work and effort and time just to start making any sort of money...and there are a lot of people just like you trying to make enough money through their channel to pay for some bills/gas/insurance. Now I'm not saying it's impossible, but it takes a lot of hard work and dedication or just luck at times to make money on YouTube.

My advice...work with what you've got. I see you used a camera to film a few videos on your channel, work on bettering your videos so they will be interesting for people to watch. Keep improving and making videos you enjoy making and eventually you'll start to bring in some money. Just keep picking up whatever work you can do and save your pennies. It'll feel a ton better when you know you have worked for every penny to purchase a big purchase that you've been wanting a while, and it'll be really great feeling seeing a product (your channel) grow with hard work and dedication and working with what you've got. It may take time, but you'll succeed if you really want it, and it'll feel good once you do.
 
ToastToGo said:
I see you just joined the forum today. Welcome to Motovlog.

In all honestly, I doubt you will get enough funds to buy a motorcycle and gear and for the safety course all through the generosity of strangers unless you have the hookups with someone really popular that passes your story along to their following. Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. There's the start up costs and then the running costs of keeping it running and maintained. Youtube also takes a lot of work and effort and time just to start making any sort of money...and there are a lot of people just like you trying to make enough money through their channel to pay for some bills/gas/insurance. Now I'm not saying it's impossible, but it takes a lot of hard work and dedication or just luck at times to make money on YouTube.

My advice...work with what you've got. I see you used a camera to film a few videos on your channel, work on bettering your videos so they will be interesting for people to watch. Keep improving and making videos you enjoy making and eventually you'll start to bring in some money. Just keep picking up whatever work you can do and save your pennies. It'll feel a ton better when you know you have worked for every penny to purchase a big purchase that you've been wanting a while, and it'll be really great feeling seeing a product (your channel) grow with hard work and dedication and working with what you've got. It may take time, but you'll succeed if you really want it, and it'll feel good once you do.
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Yeah, the videos I've done were with a camera I got for christmas. The reason I haven't done any more since then is my father owns the bike and is the source of funds and is in the process of losing his job so he doesn't want to dump money in to it. On top of that I've always been more driven to get that thing running than he is. Every time we've fired it back up after letting it sit was because I pushed him to, now that he can't ride anymore (back issues left nerve damage to where he doesn't have strength in his leg) he really has no motivation to have it running, he'd rather get his 71 FJ40 running and sold first even tho the T120C is closer to being on the road and is worth more.

I also rely on them for my fuel funds so I can't just jump in my 95 Bronco and take off to do a video, especially at 10-11mpg and over $4 a gallon.

Thanks for the advice. Side note: I am working on making shotgun shell light strings. There will be a video up on my facebook shortly (OtisENGINEuity)
 
Have you considered moving out here to Nebraska to find a job possibly :o ??? I've heard that things are bad here-and-there job-wise in CA... the last time I checked, Lincoln had an unemployment rate of 2.9%. There has to be other options somewhere else out there for 'ya ;) .....

All the best ^_^ !
 
Not to burst your bubble but if you want to make money on YouTube motovlogging is the absolute worst way. I've actually told my subscribers this on my channel. Look at the most popular motovloggers and they're still nothing compared to cooking shows, gaming channels and kids sitting in their room talking about bullshit. Motovlogging is such a small niche thing that it's hard to make much money at it. I'm sure the most popular motovloggers are making a decent amount of money. Maybe even enough to quit their day jobs but the likelihood of you starting a motovlogging channel and making a lot of money with it are remote.

I'm actually involved in several other YouTube channels and the one that makes the least amount of money is my motovlogging channel. I've been off and on with my channel but at the height of my channel money making wise I was making about the same in a month that I make in a week at my day job. That's not too shabby for a hobby that I put very little effort into. However I will say that the other things I've been involved in have been much more successful.

I tell everyone I know that if you have a hobby or a skill that you think other people might be interested in then make a YouTube channel about it. The best strategy in my opinion if you want to make a living on YouTube is to start as many different channels as you can. Take every hobby or skill you have and make a channel out of it and see if one takes off.

Just as an example of how lousy motovlogging is as a money making venture on Youtube lets look at two different channels that I'm aware of the make money.

One of the most popular motovloggers, mordeth13 has 141,791 and he's been doing it since 2007. There's a woodworking show that I watch called Woodworking for Mere Mortals. He has 260,307 and he's been doing it since 2008. What's really impressive is when you look at video views. The woodworking channel is doing quite a bit better when you look at subs but he's kicking the shit out of M13 when you see his video views. These are just some of the numbers on videos they uploaded around the same time.

Five days ago - M13 7,299 WWMM- 54,768
One week ago - M13 15,155 and this video has a thumbnail of a half naked asian girl on it. WWMM - 76,348 The thumbnail is a middle aged man sitting at a patio table.
Two weeks ago - M13 14,334 WWMM- 64,657

Motovlogging is not the way to go. If you want to make money on YouTube do anything else but motovlogging. The cost to get started is high and the likelihood that your channel will take off is remote and even if it does take off you have to do better than the guy who basically invented motovlogging to even come close to being successful at it.

I motovlog because I enjoy it and because I like the interaction I get with my audience, most of which also motovlog or at the very least ride motorcycles. To make money on YouTube I do other types of channels or help other people with other types of channels. The motovlogging audience is just too small and even if you get most of them you're still going to be nothing compared to woodworkers, amateur chefs, make up girls and teenagers with emotional baggage that spill it all for the world to see.
 
kryten said:
Not to burst your bubble but if you want to make money on YouTube motovlogging is the absolute worst way. I've actually told my subscribers this on my channel. Look at the most popular motovloggers and they're still nothing compared to cooking shows, gaming channels and kids sitting in their room talking about bullshit. Motovlogging is such a small niche thing that it's hard to make much money at it. I'm sure the most popular motovloggers are making a decent amount of money. Maybe even enough to quit their day jobs but the likelihood of you starting a motovlogging channel and making a lot of money with it are remote.

I'm actually involved in several other YouTube channels and the one that makes the least amount of money is my motovlogging channel. I've been off and on with my channel but at the height of my channel money making wise I was making about the same in a month that I make in a week at my day job. That's not too shabby for a hobby that I put very little effort into. However I will say that the other things I've been involved in have been much more successful.

I tell everyone I know that if you have a hobby or a skill that you think other people might be interested in then make a YouTube channel about it. The best strategy in my opinion if you want to make a living on YouTube is to start as many different channels as you can. Take every hobby or skill you have and make a channel out of it and see if one takes off.

Just as an example of how lousy motovlogging is as a money making venture on Youtube lets look at two different channels that I'm aware of the make money.

One of the most popular motovloggers, mordeth13 has 141,791 and he's been doing it since 2007. There's a woodworking show that I watch called Woodworking for Mere Mortals. He has 260,307 and he's been doing it since 2008. What's really impressive is when you look at video views. The woodworking channel is doing quite a bit better when you look at subs but he's kicking the shit out of M13 when you see his video views. These are just some of the numbers on videos they uploaded around the same time.

Five days ago - M13 7,299 WWMM- 54,768
One week ago - M13 15,155 and this video has a thumbnail of a half naked asian girl on it. WWMM - 76,348 The thumbnail is a middle aged man sitting at a patio table.
Two weeks ago - M13 14,334 WWMM- 64,657

Motovlogging is not the way to go. If you want to make money on YouTube do anything else but motovlogging. The cost to get started is high and the likelihood that your channel will take off is remote and even if it does take off you have to do better than the guy who basically invented motovlogging to even come close to being successful at it.

I motovlog because I enjoy it and because I like the interaction I get with my audience, most of which also motovlog or at the very least ride motorcycles. To make money on YouTube I do other types of channels or help other people with other types of channels. The motovlogging audience is just too small and even if you get most of them you're still going to be nothing compared to woodworkers, amateur chefs, make up girls and teenagers with emotional baggage that spill it all for the world to see.
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Like I said, I just want enough coming in to keep me riding, it's better than nothing. I am looking in to possible late night jobs as I haven't gotten to sleep before 6am in a month. I would also like to make videos about shooting and my love of music and a few other things but I figured motorcycles was the easiest, considering I don't have the property to shoot on and its hard to find anyone that will let you shoot on theirs in this state. My other thing is I don't want to exactly vlog.. yeah I will talk if I have something to say but me saying things can be a HUGE liability, as a libra-scorpio cusper I tend to speak my mind and hold nothing back and can be pretty abrasive which could lead to issues. I mostly just want to make nice scenic ride videos and maybe bike reviews and stuff like that.
Thanks for the info.
 
RoninK6 said:
Have you considered moving out here to Nebraska to find a job possibly :eek: ??? I've heard that things are bad here-and-there job-wise in CA... the last time I checked, Lincoln had an unemployment rate of 2.9%. There has to be other options somewhere else out there for 'ya ;) .....

All the best ^_^ !
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Scary part, my grandpa was from Nebraska. And I have thought of moving but that takes money or someone to mooch off of until you get your shit together. If I had my way I'd probably move to Oregon, I love it up there, my grandpa used to live in Eugene and we spent some time at Odell Lake. I just don't know how well I'd be able to stand being that far from my family.. on one hand it'd be amazing, on the other not having anyone around that I know that I can talk to would be very stressful for me.
 
Look man, I'm going to be totally honest here.1: I can't see indigo go or Kickstarter campaign working for you. 2: People don't really know you or your channel so you are fighting a massive uphill battle even convincing people via Kickstarter /indigogo etc.3: Motovlogging doesnt even pay bills for the top channels. Actually, i wouldn't even say it pays for fuel or insurance etc.4: Top tier channels getting 20,000+ views a day consistently still don't earn much at all. 5: Your filmography and editing would have to be on par with the top 15 channels consistently. 6: you would need support from the bigger channels aswell, this i find unlikely as no-one really wants to support a person who is a unknown
 
honestly just go for it, the only limit to this is as you say no money so you will struggle for a long time till you get subscribers that end up giving you money through yt to pay for the bills, either way bikes are enjoyable and its something you shold do :)
 
ToastToGo said:
Yeah true, wouldn't hurt to give it a shot. Just do it and see what comes of it.
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yeah I don't know now, I mean it's kind of a cool idea, and its typical me that I'd be the one to come up with it when no one else ever had the thought but comments like the one above yours just make me feel like a worthless POS to think of it, like its some joke and that no one would take it seriously.
 
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