Best Camera Equipment?

It actually doesn't make sense to me, unless I'm missing something. Most of our monitors only support up to 1080p. Unless you buy an expensive 4k monitor. So even if the video claims to be in 4k, you are not watching in that resolution. Then you need a connection fast enough to allow it to stream at that rate, which I've never seen yet. Also, doing a 10 minute video in 2.7 or 4k is a HUGE file. Even at 1080p a 10 min file is around 1.5 gigs, which takes me all night and part of the next morning to upload, if I'm lucky. When I'm viewing a streaming video, the best I get is 720p, but it actually looks quite clear on youtube. When data rate drops Im usually watching vids in 480p. Just part of the curse of living in a rural area with 1950s copper phone lines and a DSL connection.
 
Baldbiker said:
It actually doesn't make sense to me, unless I'm missing something. Most of our monitors only support up to 1080p. Unless you buy an expensive 4k monitor. So even if the video claims to be in 4k, you are not watching in that resolution. Then you need a connection fast enough to allow it to stream at that rate, which I've never seen yet. Also, doing a 10 minute video in 2.7 or 4k is a HUGE file. Even at 1080p a 10 min file is around 1.5 gigs, which takes me all night and part of the next morning to upload, if I'm lucky. When I'm viewing a streaming video, the best I get is 720p, but it actually looks quite clear on youtube. When data rate drops Im usually watching vids in 480p. Just part of the curse of living in a rural area with 1950s copper phone lines and a DSL connection.
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That would make me not want to upload anything! My average video size is like 5GB. I've had videos as small as 3GB lately, but most have been around 7-12GB. I upload in 2.7K HD, rendered out of Resolve at a max of 80,000kbps bitrate.

-John
 
Ok, and this is just for the sake of discussion, but I just finished watching an episode of "ride on amigos". The video looks pretty clear, well exposed, no blurring, even while riding past trees. click on your settings icon and it will tell you what rez you are viewing it in. I see it says I'm viewing in 720p. It's never streamed higher than that for me, but like I was saying, the video is pretty clear. For someone that lives in the city where there is fiber optic and all that, they probably get a higher streaming allowance and can watch it in 1080p/60 with no problem at all and I bet it looks fantastic. So, Im just thinking, that making a 5-7 GB upload really isn't worth the trouble. For me it would literally take 3 days to upload a file that big, and I would probably have to reset it several times.
 
My editing time limit ran out so I will add it here. As another example, I just uploaded a short little clip of me trying to clear snow from the front of my bike shed. I can't post the link because I'm told I "do not have the privilege's" to post a link here, but it looks extremely clear and was filmed in 1080p.
 
Uploading at 2.7k or 4k gets a better codec from YouTube, if you upload at 1080, YT will compress the 45mbps it records at on a GoPro down to 15mbps at 1080. If however you upscale your 1080 footage when editing to 2.7k or 4k, and keep the standard 45mbps (older GoPros) or 60mbps (newer GoPros), when you upload that to YT, you get the better VP9 codec, which stops that compression so your 1080 footage will look better on YT even if viewed at 1080 rather than the 2.7k/4k you told YT it was.
If you have a potato for an internet connection, you will never see videos in all their "glory", but it doesn't mean your audience can't. I run 2 PCs, this one for forums and social media, my other one for gaming/editing/watching YT/etc and that has an ultrawide 4k monitor, and watching videos where people have forced the VP9 codec from YT are always so very much nicer to watch than those recorded in 1080 and encoded by YT with their low bitrate codec.
 
All very scientific. I'll play around with that. Will have to try it on the next shoot, but man, it's going to be a three day upload for a 10 minute video!
 
Baldbiker said:
All very scientific. I'll play around with that. Will have to try it on the next shoot, but man, it's going to be a three day upload for a 10 minute video!
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A 4k video at 45mbps is no larger than a 1080 vid at 45mbps, so unles during editing you are already compressing your footage, it won't make any difference (or in theory shouldn't) I honestly didn't notice any difference when I do it! :-)
 
Where I live, we have 1950s copper phone lines and use DSL. The fastest allowable transfer rate is 5 mb/s. The technician told us once when he was fixing a noisy line that he might be able to tweak a really good line for us to get as much as 7 mb/s but that would be max. I would love to have 45, that would be a dream come true.
 
Baldbiker said:
Where I live, we have 1950s copper phone lines and use DSL. The fastest allowable transfer rate is 5 mb/s. The technician told us once when he was fixing a noisy line that he might be able to tweak a really good line for us to get as much as 7 mb/s but that would be max. I would love to have 45, that would be a dream come true.
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Gosh, I feel like a jerk then ... I was uploading at 20mb/s and got mad when it dropped to 1-3mb/s... and then switched my WiFi settings on my laptop and now I get upset when it's <50mb/s.

Guess I'm pretty lucky.

-John
 
Baldbiker said:
Where I live, we have 1950s copper phone lines and use DSL. The fastest allowable transfer rate is 5 mb/s. The technician told us once when he was fixing a noisy line that he might be able to tweak a really good line for us to get as much as 7 mb/s but that would be max. I would love to have 45, that would be a dream come true.
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Sorry, I think you are misunderstanding what I was talking about. The 45mbps/60mbps is referring to the video bitrate your camera records video at, not your upload/download speed. It is why we need fast memory cards in our cameras.
 
HippoDrone said:
Sorry, I think you are misunderstanding what I was talking about. The 45mbps/60mbps is referring to the video bitrate your camera records video at, not your upload/download speed. It is why we need fast memory cards in our cameras.
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Oh yes, I thought you were talking about internet speed. The average 64G sd card now is 160mb/s read and 60mb/s write.
 
Baldbiker said:
The bright side to living out in the country is that it's great for riding!
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#Truth. I have to ride a half hour or so to get to any "good riding" roads.

Otherwise it's just a few twisties near my house, and a bunch of suburban/urban roads - UGH!

This is also why I have 2+ hours of footage from a "normal" ride, and why the roads are almost always the same - there's only one or two good directions to go to get to those good riding roads.

-John
 
I just posted part 1 of a new video today outlining some new gear I've been collecting over the winter for this year's season. You can find it on my channel if you like and tell me what you think. (I hope that bit of shameless self promotion is allowed, but take note, I didn't post a link!)
 
Baldbiker said:
I just posted part 1 of a new video today outlining some new gear I've been collecting over the winter for this year's season. You can find it on my channel if you like and tell me what you think. (I hope that bit of shameless self promotion is allowed, but take note, I didn't post a link!)
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HippoDrone said:
Uploading at 2.7k or 4k gets a better codec from YouTube, if you upload at 1080, YT will compress the 45mbps it records at on a GoPro down to 15mbps at 1080. If however you upscale your 1080 footage when editing to 2.7k or 4k, and keep the standard 45mbps (older GoPros) or 60mbps (newer GoPros), when you upload that to YT, you get the better VP9 codec, which stops that compression so your 1080 footage will look better on YT even if viewed at 1080 rather than the 2.7k/4k you told YT it was.
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I do something similar. I record at 1080 but I encode at 2.7K / 36mbps, this gets me the VP9 codec on YT yet keeps the file sizes to a nice level for uploading. Its worked great for me so far!
 
Drakhen99 said:
That would make me not want to upload anything! My average video size is like 5GB. I've had videos as small as 3GB lately, but most have been around 7-12GB. I upload in 2.7K HD, rendered out of Resolve at a max of 80,000kbps bitrate.

-John
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Dang those files sound huge! Most my files are between 500MB and 2GB.
 
YBGuy said:
Dang those files sound huge! Most my files are between 500MB and 2GB.
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I uploaded 2 videos today, and they totaled about 8GB. My "posted to YouTube" folder on my computer says that all my videos combined are 325GB.

A lot of my earlier ones are smaller, because I used a lower MB/S encoding when I rendered them. The biggest ones are 10.5GB and 11.5GB, with a lot in the 6-9GB range, especially my "short film" ones with lots of effects.

-John
 
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