Setup help needed for a newbie

HayesMaker

HayesMaker

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Hi all, new to the forum and new to vloging... I know... Its going to be full or dumb questions so sorry in advance!

I have recently attempted to link my Cardo Packtalk Edge to my Drift Ghost XL Pro.

I have it kind of working but have two issues so far;

1) Camera Mic volume is incredibly low and Cardo is high. I know I could fix this with an attenuation cable or volume wire thing... But I was hoping to be able to just edit the two audio channels separately which leads me to issue 2...

2) My videos seem to be combining the two solo audios into 1 and I cannot separate them in DaVinci Resolve (I've been using YouTube for help but it doesn't work with my video files), when I try I just get left audio and right audio but both are exactly the same.

I have Cardo to Y cable
Speakers to Y cable (a)
Y cable (b) to aux cable
Aux cable to Breakout cable (a)
Camera mic to Breakout (b)
Breakout cable to Ghost xl

See pic for better idea of set up

Am I missing something with the files merging both audio signals? Am I going to have to lump out for an attenuation cable?

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Without seeing what you're working with, and I am not 100% sure I understand what's going on, I'll say this:

It sounds like your 2 audio sources are combined into one stereo track, where one is Left and the other is Right.

You should be able to either split those Left/Right sources into their own tracks, or barring that, duplicate the audio tracks, use the Stereo Fixer (I think it's called) effect, and pan Left for the original and Right for the duplicate, and then adjust the levels from there.

-John
 
HippoDrone said:
I imagine that it is just adding both inputs into the single audio channel, you'll not be able to separate them with your current setup.
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It was my understanding that the Breakout cable (Hosa YMM-261 3.5mm TRS to Dual 3.5mm TS Female) would separate them Into stereo meaning I should have Comms as left and video as right
 
Drakhen99 said:
Without seeing what you're working with, and I am not 100% sure I understand what's going on, I'll say this:

It sounds like your 2 audio sources are combined into one stereo track, where one is Left and the other is Right.

You should be able to either split those Left/Right sources into their own tracks, or barring that, duplicate the audio tracks, use the Stereo Fixer (I think it's called) effect, and pan Left for the original and Right for the duplicate, and then adjust the levels from there.

-John
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Hi John, that's what I expected to happen. Intercom should be the Left audio and Camera should be the Right audio channel. Instead, when I split the channels, both left and right are comms and camera combined.

What do you need to see to? The picture I posted has the items on but I could write it down if needed.
 
HayesMaker said:
Hi John, that's what I expected to happen. Intercom should be the Left audio and Camera should be the Right audio channel. Instead, when I split the channels, both left and right are comms and camera combined.

What do you need to see to? The picture I posted has the items on but I could write it down if needed.
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After your response - nothing more. I was referring to the timeline in Resolve, specifically in the Fairlight tab.

BUT, you answered the question - it looks like your audio streams are combined, not on distinct Left and Right channels like I was hoping [and my solution was geared for].

I think the breakout cable is probably going to be your best bet.

-John
 
Drakhen99 said:
After your response - nothing more. I was referring to the timeline in Resolve, specifically in the Fairlight tab.

BUT, you answered the question - it looks like your audio streams are combined, not on distinct Left and Right channels like I was hoping [and my solution was geared for].

I think the breakout cable is probably going to be your best bet.

-John
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No problem, the odd thing is, I'm already using a breakout cable so I'm wondering if it's the Drift camera combining them so my original plan is foiled. In the video where I found the setup, the chap is using a GoPro not a Drift so it could be that.
 
HayesMaker said:
No problem, the odd thing is, I'm already using a breakout cable so I'm wondering if it's the Drift camera combining them so my original plan is foiled. In the video where I found the setup, the chap is using a GoPro not a Drift so it could be that.
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If the Drift only has mono audio, that would make sense to me. I'm not sure if GoPros have stereo or not.

-John
 
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So, I pulled up Resolve, and in the Fairlight tab, I made the audio track really tall, and I see this - which leads me to believe that when a GoPro is connected to a Media Mod for external audio, it comes in as mono and is then split to L/R channels, but they're the same.

It may be easier in your case to record to 2 devices, sync them up in your editing software, and then set the levels so they're equal.

-John
 
Drakhen99 said:
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So, I pulled up Resolve, and in the Fairlight tab, I made the audio track really tall, and I see this - which leads me to believe that when a GoPro is connected to a Media Mod for external audio, it comes in as mono and is then split to L/R channels, but they're the same.

It may be easier in your case to record to 2 devices, sync them up in your editing software, and then set the levels so they're equal.

-John
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So strange as I've seen videos of people doing it in Resolve with this set up. I'm going to try different set up with a second mic next to the speakers instead of linking them.
 
Your cable arrangement is correct. Most people use the wrong cable going into the camera: a Y-cable instead of a splitter. For seperate channels you must use a stereo to dual mono splitter.

Can the Ghost XL Pro even record stereo? Does the splitter actually do what it should? Try it out seperately with a left/right test track.
 
PhilTonic said:
Your cable arrangement is correct. Most people use the wrong cable going into the camera: a Y-cable instead of a splitter. For seperate channels you must use a stereo to dual mono splitter.

Can the Ghost XL Pro even record stereo? Does the splitter actually do what it should? Try it out seperately with a left/right test track.
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I'm beginning to think the ghost cannot haha. I ended up going with a mic next to my speaker instead, but now it doesn't seem to pick up the speaker audio unless on full ‍♂️
 
Okay, quick update, the setup all works in my PC and I can edit the separate audio tracks... So Drift Ghost XL Pro is recording mono audio. Not really sure how I can use this setup and make the comms feed quiet enough?

(the photo is after I turned comms volume down and increased the Mic's up)
 

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You can use an inline volume regulator to set the audio roughly the same level but two signals on one track is always rubbish. Of all the cameras I've tried so far only Sony and GoPro seem to be able to record stereo. Insta360 nope, Drift nope.
 
PhilTonic said:
You can use an inline volume regulator to set the audio roughly the same level but two signals on one track is always rubbish. Of all the cameras I've tried so far only Sony and GoPro seem to be able to record stereo. Insta360 nope, Drift nope.
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Thats disappointing! I need to carry on with my double mic to camera method then, just can't get it to pick up on the speaker mic very well :(
 
I have published english subtitles on my tutorial video. Maybe that helps.

Here is a link to the thread where I shared that video:

So i have a crazy idea...... [Recording Comms on to Camera]

I would like to be able to record some of my crazy relatives when they call me while im out riding. Like a sixth sense everytime i do a long ride 2hrs plus i get a call from my "fun" relatives and friends. I would like to be able to add thise calls into my motovlogs ( with thier permission of...
motovlog.com
 
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I give up.

I bought the inline volume control, but now the footage will only record mic, not picking up the Cardo stuff.

I also tried two mics, 1 next to my speakers but again, the cam only seemed to pic up 1. It seems the Drift Ghost XL Pro cannot take two audio inputs at the same time so I've called it quits. I've spent too much money and gotten too frustrated to carry on with it. Can't afford a GoPro after just buying the Ghost. I can't believe something that should be so simple is such hard work!
 
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