Youtube and Copyright...

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Carkeh

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I understand that YouTube is a business, record labels are businesses and a business' only real goal is to make money. But this whole YouTube copyright fiasco is getting severely OTT.

I'm working on a new video and I've already spent 2 hours editing JUST the intro. I decided to upload the intro in 1080p to YouTube and, low and behold, I'm greeted by this screen...

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There really is no point in my working so hard on a video for it then to be unavailable in such pivotal providences. It just really is starting to take the ****.

Yeah so there really is no point to this thread other than a vent for my fuming rage. Why does it need to block it? I'm not moneytizing my video so why does it have tobe BLOCKED. I'd be fine with running adverts for the appropriate record label or whatever, just so long as people actually got to watch the video I've worked so damn hard on.

I mean seriously, wtf is this sh*t?

For reference, the link to the video for those outside of the United States is HERE
 
Bikermole said:
Damn, I was going to use this song too!

Stupid youtube!
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Such a damn good song, fit in so well with the pacing of the intro and everything. Bloody ridiculous.

The worst part? I uploaded a video of a BETTER known song by the SAME record label under the SAME copyright terms, and it's matched thirty party content but isn't blocked...

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it's being stupid for me too, uploading a video atm saying "13892 minutes remaining" and still counting, I know I have skype on but that's just stupid
 
Seriously, YouTube will jump down your throat the second they even remotely think anything copyrighted is in one of your videos. Just use royalty free music (jamendo and danosongs are the sites I use) if you want to make life easy for yourself :)
 
gpzDave said:
Seriously, YouTube will jump down your throat the second they even remotely think anything copyrighted is in one of your videos. Just use royalty free music (jamendo and danosongs are the sites I use) if you want to make life easy for yourself :)
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I sat there for ages on Jamendo looking for a song that complimented the rhythym and beat I had in mind but I was unable to find one. Just really pains me to know that this is what the internet is becoming. An area where everyone was able to do what they want. Just goes to show that everything you ever do is controlled in some way..
 
Thats one hot actor. Oh wait its me. xD Love the noise that bike makes, might upload a raw video with just that last exhaust tune all the way down the road.
 
tomasstone69 said:
Thats one hot actor. Oh wait its me. xD Love the noise that bike makes, might upload a raw video with just that last exhaust tune all the way down the road.
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I can do that for you!
 
gpzDave said:
Seriously, YouTube will jump down your throat the second they even remotely think anything copyrighted is in one of your videos. Just use royalty free music (jamendo and danosongs are the sites I use) if you want to make life easy for yourself :)
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Looking at the docs on Jamendo it indicates that it isn't legal to use their music on youtube without a pro licence.

Your project is commercial
* A project is commercial if it is available for sale, if its access isn't free, if it comes with advertising, if it was created to promote a business or if you were remunerated for its creation.
 
I've said it before in another thread, I've uploaded very old blues, trad jazz, early country, stuff that has to be out of copyright - as it's over 80 years old, and I get youtube telling me that someone claims copyright to it.

wtf?
 
Carkeh said:
gpzDave said:
Seriously, YouTube will jump down your throat the second they even remotely think anything copyrighted is in one of your videos. Just use royalty free music (jamendo and danosongs are the sites I use) if you want to make life easy for yourself :)
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I sat there for ages on Jamendo looking for a song that complimented the rhythym and beat I had in mind but I was unable to find one. Just really pains me to know that this is what the internet is becoming. An area where everyone was able to do what they want. Just goes to show that everything you ever do is controlled in some way..
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The internet was once a wild frontier, that started to change in 1995, there was IMHO a genuine conspiracy to legislate it out of the hands of people, and wrap it in law, to control it. :?
 
Carkeh said:
I understand that YouTube is a business, record labels are businesses and a business' only real goal is to make money. But this whole YouTube copyright fiasco is getting severely OTT.

I'm working on a new video and I've already spent 2 hours editing JUST the intro. I decided to upload the intro in 1080p to YouTube and, low and behold, I'm greeted by this screen...

copyrightlame.jpg


There really is no point in my working so hard on a video for it then to be unavailable in such pivotal providences. It just really is starting to take the ****.

Yeah so there really is no point to this thread other than a vent for my fuming rage. Why does it need to block it? I'm not moneytizing my video so why does it have tobe BLOCKED. I'd be fine with running adverts for the appropriate record label or whatever, just so long as people actually got to watch the video I've worked so damn hard on.

I mean seriously, wtf is this sh*t?

For reference, the link to the video for those outside of the United States is HERE
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you need creative commons music. you need permission from them. because when youtube does this. you then reply with the details etc. a day or so later its confirmed and its all legit.

i have no problems with it because i know the legal side of it. i have managed to counter act a few bogus claims and some legit ones they did by mistake.
 
I found a loophole in the system. It's reasonably well known, you do a simple pitch change and the program doesn't pick it up. The only issue is that it makes it sounds a bit.. iffy... at times.
 
Carkeh said:
I found a loophole in the system. It's reasonably well known, you do a simple pitch change and the program doesn't pick it up. The only issue is that it makes it sounds a bit.. iffy... at times.
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I believe speeding the song up or slowing it down a little works as well.
 
thunderous71 said:
Looking at the docs on Jamendo it indicates that it isn't legal to use their music on youtube without a pro licence.
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That is true in a general sense but about 20% of tracks on Jamendo have a creative commons licence which includes commercial use. I just make sure to check the terms on each track's licence carefully before I use one in a video.
 
gpzDave said:
thunderous71 said:
Looking at the docs on Jamendo it indicates that it isn't legal to use their music on youtube without a pro licence.
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That is true in a general sense but about 20% of tracks on Jamendo have a creative commons licence which includes commercial use. I just make sure to check the terms on each track's licence carefully before I use one in a video.
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I used some music I found on Jamendo on one of my videos once.

It wasn't specified as use with creative commons or anything.

Next thing I know, the band that wrote and preformed it were subbed to me.

Awesome!
 
Friz said:
I used some music I found on Jamendo on one of my videos once.

It wasn't specified as use with creative commons or anything.

Next thing I know, the band that wrote and preformed it were subbed to me.

Awesome!
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Haha that's a win :)
 
FYI if you have not seen it ;)

"Legal Music For Videos

Many musicians choose to release their songs under Creative Commons licenses, which give you the legal right to do things like use their music in your videos.

What is Creative Commons?
Creative Commons is a new system, built upon current copyright law, that allows you to legally use “some rights reserved” music, movies, images, and other content — all for free. CC offers free copyright licenses that anyone can use (without a lawyer) to mark their creative work with the freedoms they want it to carry. For instance, a musician would use a Creative Commons license to allow people to legally share her songs online, make copies for friends, or even use them in videos or other compositions. For more information, visit our Learn More page.

Where can I find CC-licensed music?
Several sites offer music published under Creative Commons’ flexible copyright licenses. Here are some:

ccMixter
Free Music Archive
Jamendo
Magnatune
Simuze
BeatPick
CASH Music
SectionZ
Opsound
Podsafe Audio
AudioFarm
Internet Archive’s Netlabels Collection
Can I use any song with a CC license on it?
Almost — you need to make sure that what you want to do with the music is OK under the terms of the particular Creative Commons license it’s under. CC-licensed music isn’t free for all uses, only some — so make sure to check out the terms (you can find these by clicking on each song’s license icon).

Most importantly, you need to use music that is not licensed under a No Derivative Works license. This means that the musician doesn’t want you to change, transform, or make a derivative work using their music. Under CC licenses, synching the music to images amounts to transforming the music, so you can’t legally use a song under a CC No Derivative Works license in your video.

Also, make sure to properly credit the musician and the track, as well as express the CC license the track is under. For example, you might include text like this at the end of your video:

This video features the song “Desaprendere (Treatment)” by fourstones, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license."

http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos
 
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