Which Do You Prefer
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burlyjack
The bearded dude with a cool YouTube
The side mount with a view of the helmet gives a better perspective in my opinio. However if half the frame is nothing but helmet then that's too much. One view I really don't like is on top of the helmet. I like to be able to see the bike you're riding. One of the things I like the most about Motovlogging is the whole first person perspective. I really wish I could find a good set up for putting the camera inside the helmet like M13 use to
Hippo-Drones
Pleb
You could always do clever editing to make it look like it is inside the lid. I like the side mount but have seen so many vids where it loses the important footage due to being on the wrong side. If going sidemount I guess you need 2 cameras, one for each side then edit between them for ideal perspective.
burlyjack
The bearded dude with a cool YouTube
Yeah I'm not that fancy lol. A pair of glasses that had a camera that record in HD would be awesome. That way you could have a real FPV like in Ride or something lol.
Hippo-Drones
Pleb
on my airsoft vids I utilised 3 cameras and made the headcam look like it was through my goggles, folk said they liked it so I have continued to use it where I can. Am too new on here to show an example though so may come back to this thread after my probation period is up (if allowed to show the effect in this thread?)
DFG
Dat Foreign Guy
I can't stand the view from the top of the helmet. Now if someone is behind you and they are recording you than it's a dope angle but I don't like it either for vlogging
BlakShadow
The Masshole
I prefer a chin mount, but can't use one on my modular helmet because that's where the release mechanism is, so I use a side mount. I have an old full face helmet that I only use for rallycross and track days in cars (no modular helmets allowed), and use a chin mount on that.
scooterwuf
L Plate Member
I have a feeling I would prefer the side mounts. It’s the only one I have since I have a Drift Ghost S, and I’m not sure if there is a universal chin mount for cross brand cameras. However, there may be a more aesthetic, or psychological reason, for a side mount preference over a chin (or POV) view.
A side view creates an OTS, or Over-the-Shoulder kind of shot, which is my favorite shot in terms of shot selection, or editing. I say this because it turns the viewer into a voyeur. Instead of being set back from the subject/Main Character, watching the action through the 4th wall, we have now crept up behind the character (without them knowing it) to spy over their shoulder, and share what they’re watching.
This powerful shot has been used throughout film history in numerous variations from your standard OTS, to Over-the-Hip (or gun holster. Watch any classic western to see what I mean) to Over-the-Knee, and Over-the-Ankle (or spurs. Again, watch a classic western).
The OT(fill in the blank) can be used in many situations. An Over-the-Window Pane for an actually voyeur shot, to over a bush, over a branch, a desk, a hand, etc. ... . The list goes on.
The Chin shot creates a POV shot, which can be powerful, but is best used when it is preceded by an ’Off the Look’ shot. This means that if we -- the audience -- sees the Main Character looking at something ‘off screen’, whatever is cut to next is understood to be form the characters’s POV. If a clip starts with this, a POV shot, it’s not wrong, but it loses its editing punch. If it’s all we see then it becomes a long take. Long takes can work as long as they are interesting, challenging, or intriguing. Sound, music and voce-overs can create these elements. If B-roll footage can be edited in, then the long take is broken up, which creates an anticipation when we cut back to it.
Watch commercials, short films, TV and feature films and you'll notice how often the ‘Off the Look' shot is used, along with the OTS. Editors love 'Off the Look’ shots because it motivates a cut. By this I mean an editor will often ask why am I cutting here? what’s motivating this cut? An ‘Off the Look shot answers that question while an OTS shot adds tension and drama to a scene.
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A side view creates an OTS, or Over-the-Shoulder kind of shot, which is my favorite shot in terms of shot selection, or editing. I say this because it turns the viewer into a voyeur. Instead of being set back from the subject/Main Character, watching the action through the 4th wall, we have now crept up behind the character (without them knowing it) to spy over their shoulder, and share what they’re watching.
This powerful shot has been used throughout film history in numerous variations from your standard OTS, to Over-the-Hip (or gun holster. Watch any classic western to see what I mean) to Over-the-Knee, and Over-the-Ankle (or spurs. Again, watch a classic western).
The OT(fill in the blank) can be used in many situations. An Over-the-Window Pane for an actually voyeur shot, to over a bush, over a branch, a desk, a hand, etc. ... . The list goes on.
The Chin shot creates a POV shot, which can be powerful, but is best used when it is preceded by an ’Off the Look’ shot. This means that if we -- the audience -- sees the Main Character looking at something ‘off screen’, whatever is cut to next is understood to be form the characters’s POV. If a clip starts with this, a POV shot, it’s not wrong, but it loses its editing punch. If it’s all we see then it becomes a long take. Long takes can work as long as they are interesting, challenging, or intriguing. Sound, music and voce-overs can create these elements. If B-roll footage can be edited in, then the long take is broken up, which creates an anticipation when we cut back to it.
Watch commercials, short films, TV and feature films and you'll notice how often the ‘Off the Look' shot is used, along with the OTS. Editors love 'Off the Look’ shots because it motivates a cut. By this I mean an editor will often ask why am I cutting here? what’s motivating this cut? An ‘Off the Look shot answers that question while an OTS shot adds tension and drama to a scene.
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DFG
Dat Foreign Guy
Thank you for the very indepth response. I appreciate it very much.
I like the idea of having a piece of helmet show and, that's how I've been doing it for sometime. But I want to give the chin mount a shot but my helmet sucks for that and I don't feel like adding bunch of links to make it work.
scooterwuf
L Plate Member
Yeah, I’m curious about a chin mount, but I don’t know if they have one for my camera. I actually like mounting the camera to my windshield pouting forward, and then a shot of my (camera facing rider) to have more footage to cut to.
Are chin mounts universal for all cameras or only made for specific brands?
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Are chin mounts universal for all cameras or only made for specific brands?
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burlyjack
The bearded dude with a cool YouTube
I think it really just depends on the size and shape of your camera. I have the Sony Action cam and there's no way I could do a chin mount. It looks like a security camera. GoPro and Sony mounts are usually pretty universal. It may take a little rigging to use a GoPro mount for something different. The biggest thing is making sure the base of your mount matches the pad on your helmet.
scooterwuf
L Plate Member
Thanks. Yeah, I have a Drift Ghost S which is similarly shaped. I check out GoPros from the school where I teach so I’ll have to sake them if they plan to get a chin mount.
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