When the media ask for usage rights of your footage?

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I'm pretty sure he is bullshitting.
Can someone confirm?

I've read this
http://www.honorslounge.com/2011/10/19/ ... ur-videos/
 
Guys trying to scare you. He can't just go to Google and ask for your footage.

Silly crazy internet man.

Doesn't even use capital letters for his name. Isn't that professional? Really shows he knows what he's doing.
 
I'd have thought you'd get a PM about something like that anyway. I did when the Daily Mail wanted some of my footage for their site. They used a proper name and were quite clearly far more legit about it.

(I'm not a fan of the Daily Mail, but I didn't see anything wrong in letting them use it.)
 
Chrus600 said:
I'd have thought you'd get a PM about something like that anyway. I did when the Daily Mail wanted some of my footage for their site. They used a proper name and were quite clearly far more legit about it.

(I'm not a fan of the Daily Mail, but I didn't see anything wrong in letting them use it.)


What video did they want to use?
 
I would have thought your videos were property of google as are your photos property of facebook. As soo as you upload anything you are giving away any rights you have.
 
ryantcb said:
I would have thought your videos were property of google as are your photos property of facebook. As soo as you upload anything you are giving away any rights you have.

From Youtube's Terms of Service:
http://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms

6. Your Content and Conduct
C. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your Content. However, by submitting Content to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, publish, adapt, make available online or electronically transmit, and perform the Content in connection with the Service and YouTube's (and its successors' and affiliates') business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the Service a non-exclusive license to access your Content through the Service, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display, publish, make available online or electronically transmit, and perform such Content as permitted through the functionality of the Service and under these Terms of Service. The above licenses granted by you in video Content you submit to the Service terminate within a commercially reasonable time after you remove or delete your videos from the Service. You understand and agree, however, that YouTube may retain, but not display, distribute, or perform, server copies of your videos that have been removed or deleted. The above licenses granted by you in user comments you submit are perpetual and irrevocable.

The way I read it is that you still retain ownership of the content, but you grant Youtube and its users the rights to use the video within the Youtube website/service.

So for example a news crew wanting to use Premises187's videos in their news program is outside of the Youtube service and they would need to get permission from him to use his content.

Anyway, that's just my take on it and I'm not a lawyer by any means but I thought it was interesting.

@Premises187 - it sounds like your message is bogus and I would ignore it.
 
ham said:
ryantcb said:
I would have thought your videos were property of google as are your photos property of facebook. As soo as you upload anything you are giving away any rights you have.

The way I read it is that you still retain ownership of the content, but you grant Youtube and its users the rights to use the video within the Youtube website/service.

So for example a news crew wanting to use Premises187's videos in their news program is outside of the Youtube service and they would need to get permission from him to use his content.

Anyway, that's just my take on it and I'm not a lawyer by any means but I thought it was interesting.

@Premises187 - it sounds like your message is bogus and I would ignore it.


You definitely retain the rights unless you use the community license. If that wasn't the case then there wouldn't be so many copyright infringement notices. Most of the music that gets flagged for copyright infringement is available somewhere on YT, generally under a VEVO account. If everything uploaded to YT became theirs then the music companies wouldn't be allowing any of their music videos to be uploaded.
 
ryantcb said:
I would have thought your videos were property of google as are your photos property of facebook. As soo as you upload anything you are giving away any rights you have.

Facebook are a particularly nasty company when it comes to rights and such.
 
Friz said:
Facebook are a particularly nasty company when it comes to rights and such.

I deleted my old FB account about 2yrs ago, and recently while talking to a friend he told me no FB account EVER goes away once you create it. Tried to log back in to call him on it... Worked perfectly as if I'd never clicked delete. All my pics were still there and everything looked like I never closed it. This was not from me just not logging in for 2yrs. I very specifically deleted that FB account!
 
Trinith said:
ham said:
ryantcb said:
I would have thought your videos were property of google as are your photos property of facebook. As soo as you upload anything you are giving away any rights you have.

The way I read it is that you still retain ownership of the content, but you grant Youtube and its users the rights to use the video within the Youtube website/service.

So for example a news crew wanting to use Premises187's videos in their news program is outside of the Youtube service and they would need to get permission from him to use his content.

Anyway, that's just my take on it and I'm not a lawyer by any means but I thought it was interesting.

@Premises187 - it sounds like your message is bogus and I would ignore it.


You definitely retain the rights unless you use the community license. If that wasn't the case then there wouldn't be so many copyright infringement notices. Most of the music that gets flagged for copyright infringement is available somewhere on YT, generally under a VEVO account. If everything uploaded to YT became theirs then the music companies wouldn't be allowing any of their music videos to be uploaded.

The way it works simply is this...
Anything you upload to youtube is automatically yours and you retain the copyright to it (unless that is contested ofcourse). BUT any google/youtube affiliate also is allowed to use the video and gain money from adverts etc but again you still OWN the video.
The reason its worded that way is to basically allow embedding of your videos on websites etc etc but this doesnt give the right to anyone to copy it out of the youtube container and use it as they see fit though.

Facebook on the other hand are very Evil, if you delete all you content etc they still keep copies of it all on their servers they just do not link it to your account. Once on facebook you can never leave. Hence their boast of how many people use facebook. Its a complete fabrication as millions have left it but still appear in their stats as they can not actually leave it.

Facebook will be the next dot.com bubble to burst, its so highly over inflated.
 
thunderous71 said:
The way it works simply is this...
Anything you upload to youtube is automatically yours and you retain the copyright to it (unless that is contested ofcourse). BUT any google/youtube affiliate also is allowed to use the video and gain money from adverts etc but again you still OWN the video.
The reason its worded that way is to basically allow embedding of your videos on websites etc etc but this doesnt give the right to anyone to copy it out of the youtube container and use it as they see fit though.

Slightly off topic but sorta relevant to what you're talking about.

Want to see where your videos are appearing on the web?

Stick this into Google:

"yournamehere" -site:youtube.* -site:twitter.com -site:socialblade.com -site:motovlog.com -site:facebook.com -site:google.com

Add more -site: 's as appropriate.

Mine looks like this:

"friz020" -site:youtube.* -site:twitter.com -site:socialblade.com -site:motovlog.com -site:facebook.com -site:google.com

And I can see my videos are showing up on zomobo.net, garytube.com, frequency.com, beatzone.cz, socialbakers.com, beith.org, hogthis.com, yt.worldtv.com, flipbooth.com amongst others.
 
With my stupid name, nothing of mine came up until page 4, and then it was an embedded youtube vid on some arabic site. I must be incredibly un-famous :P
 
Nerb said:
With my stupid name, nothing of mine came up until page 4, and then it was an embedded youtube vid on some arabic site. I must be incredibly un-famous :P

Ah ha! I probably should have mentioned that it won't work well for people who have names used by other things.
Unless you add in a load more -site: operators! ;)
 
thunderous71 said:
Facebook on the other hand are very Evil, if you delete all you content etc they still keep copies of it all on their servers they just do not link it to your account. Once on facebook you can never leave. Hence their boast of how many people use facebook. Its a complete fabrication as millions have left it but still appear in their stats as they can not actually leave it.

Facebook will be the next dot.com bubble to burst, its so highly over inflated.

I usually operate on the notion that if I don't want it to stay on the internet forever then it never makes it to the internet in the first place.

TrailChaser said:
Friz said:
Facebook are a particularly nasty company when it comes to rights and such.

I deleted my old FB account about 2yrs ago, and recently while talking to a friend he told me no FB account EVER goes away once you create it. Tried to log back in to call him on it... Worked perfectly as if I'd never clicked delete. All my pics were still there and everything looked like I never closed it. This was not from me just not logging in for 2yrs. I very specifically deleted that FB account!

That's common for more sites than just FB. I know for a fact that Google and MySpace do the same thing. I 'deleted' my G+ account not too long after creating it, and yet I can still log into it if I want and the few things I did there are still present.
 
I've received a message extremely similar to P187's OP a few months ago... only then it was for a sightseeing TV programme (the kind that edits clips from people together to show a place, obviously in my case, Paris).

I asked the person to review the final edited footage - she told me she'd see what she could do, and never got back to me. I guess it was too much trouble for them.

My take on it is don't do it. You never know how they can use the footage. Give bikers a bad name, etc. I'd rather do my thing on my own really.
 
After giving it some thought I think I know what I'd do if someone were to contact me about using my stuff. "Sure, I'll sell you the copy rights for $5,000 per video. Money must be in my account before anything may be put on the air." They'll either say no, or I'll have a hell of a down payment on a new bike. Both of which are fine with me. :)
 
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