When the media ask for usage rights of your footage?

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Premises187

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Has anyone had this before?

"We are producing a TV-show to be shown on a Danish national TV-channel this fall.
In this show we would like to show some or all of your video. I am contacting you to ask for your permission to use it. This means that you give us the right (without limitations) to use the video."

I see it as a good way to increase popularity.
But I'm worried they might use it in a slanderous light.
I'll probably make a usage clause that they have to agree on.

Also I was wondering if giving out rights to a video could in anyway effect monetization or the "Standard YouTube Licence" which we publish videos under?

In the past I've just ignored TV and radio show offers.
I was wondering what you guys might know or have experienced?
 
In another life (Internet wise) I had a side line in videos etc that proved to be popular and was asked a few times to appear on TV and allow my videos/stories to be used. It just turned out to be a small company just making lots of clip shows etc from other peoples work and putting it on TV. I declined the offer myself as I wouldn't be in control of how the clips were used or the light I would or people in the videos would be shown.

But yea I think it could have a huge increase in your userbase but could also go the other way, it all depends how they are used.
 
I have had a UK company ask me about using my crash vid. they say they will contact me in nov if they are going to use it. if I can get a few bucks out of some media company.. help pay for the bike... works for me.
 
News Channels pay for storm and tornado footage, I'd say riding footage is a little more personal and they would need to cough up some $$$.
 
I have a ready welder video uploaded on my channel from years ago... It's basically just a video I uploaded for members of the offroad club I was part of to see my new toy. The company "Ready Welder" randomly found my video on youtube and gave me a couple of hundred dollars in free stuff and made me a full retail dealer that I made some pretty good coin on for a while. All they wanted was a copy of the original file, so I mailed them a burned copy on CD.

Vids can pay off, just go with it.
 
MetalHead said:
News Channels pay for storm and tornado footage, I'd say riding footage is a little more personal and they would need to cough up some $$$.
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This just gave me a wonderfully stupid idea, one so wonderful and insane I want to try it. Who want's to go motard tornado chasing with me next spring? :D
 
Hey,

I was actually lurking on Motovlog trying to get in touch with a rider called LDR, but since he's not replying at the moment I have some time to kill.

I work for a Japanese television network who regularly licenses videos from youtube, liveleak, dailymotion, reddit etc etc.

Basically you have 2 options when a media company such as ours contacts you;

1.) You can ask for a licensing fee. The actual costs involved depend largely on the quality of the footage and the subject matter. The 'rarer' the video the higher the price. For amateur footage we usually give a starting offer for about 150 Euros but this is negotiable and can go up to 500 Euros. The problem is, if you start with a 500 Euro offer, a smaller production company might get scared off by the high costs. That is why I recommend that you try to give a reasonable licensing fee for your videos, if you're fair they may even ask to broadcast another one of your videos which in turn might yield higher profits for you.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of companies that try to take advantage of amateur video uploaders. So I'll put in a few key points that you should keep in mind.

-Make sure that all your agreements with the company are written down so that you have proof of statements. (I can't stress this enough)
-Find out the basic conditions the production company wants:
1 Which territory of broadcast?
2 Which program? (Ask them to send you a sample screener of the show itself)
3 How many times do they intend to use the video?
4 How long is the license period for? (minimum is usually 1 year)
5 Exclusive or non-exclusive (this is a big factor in determining the cost of the license.)
6 Is there sub-licensing involved? (ie. does this company buy your video license and then sell it again to another company for profit?)

Now that I write it all down for the first time it might seem scary to a first-timer but in all reality it's usually quite simple. Ask them to draft a licensing contract and make sure to read the fine print. Like everything else, the TV industry is 95% decent people, 5% assholes.

2.) Option 2 is to simply give your video away for free. On one hand this will give you a massive promotion boost. If your youtube account and such are connected to adsense this is a pretty smart move because you will gain viewers. On the other hand, now that the company knows you're willing to prostitute yourself for free, they will take everything that they can get their grubby little hands on. Make sure to be very clear in your correspondence with them about what you're willing to give for free. You'll need to balance the benefits versus the drawbacks yourself.

That's my two cents on the matter. I hope it gives you a better idea of how the industry works. If you're really unsure about something feel free to e-mail me at research.thomas(at)ntve.nl and I'll try to help you out.

Best,
Tom
 
NTVEurope said:
Hey,

I was actually lurking on Motovlog trying to get in touch with a rider called LDR, but since he's not replying at the moment I have some time to kill.

I work for a Japanese television network who regularly licenses videos from youtube, liveleak, dailymotion, reddit etc etc.

Basically you have 2 options when a media company such as ours contacts you;

1.) You can ask for a licensing fee. The actual costs involved depend largely on the quality of the footage and the subject matter. The 'rarer' the video the higher the price. For amateur footage we usually give a starting offer for about 150 Euros but this is negotiable and can go up to 500 Euros. The problem is, if you start with a 500 Euro offer, a smaller production company might get scared off by the high costs. That is why I recommend that you try to give a reasonable licensing fee for your videos, if you're fair they may even ask to broadcast another one of your videos which in turn might yield higher profits for you.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of companies that try to take advantage of amateur video uploaders. So I'll put in a few key points that you should keep in mind.

-Make sure that all your agreements with the company are written down so that you have proof of statements. (I can't stress this enough)
-Find out the basic conditions the production company wants:
1 Which territory of broadcast?
2 Which program? (Ask them to send you a sample screener of the show itself)
3 How many times do they intend to use the video?
4 How long is the license period for? (minimum is usually 1 year)
5 Exclusive or non-exclusive (this is a big factor in determining the cost of the license.)
6 Is there sub-licensing involved? (ie. does this company buy your video license and then sell it again to another company for profit?)

Now that I write it all down for the first time it might seem scary to a first-timer but in all reality it's usually quite simple. Ask them to draft a licensing contract and make sure to read the fine print. Like everything else, the TV industry is 95% decent people, 5% assholes.

2.) Option 2 is to simply give your video away for free. On one hand this will give you a massive promotion boost. If your youtube account and such are connected to adsense this is a pretty smart move because you will gain viewers. On the other hand, now that the company knows you're willing to prostitute yourself for free, they will take everything that they can get their grubby little hands on. Make sure to be very clear in your correspondence with them about what you're willing to give for free. You'll need to balance the benefits versus the drawbacks yourself.

That's my two cents on the matter. I hope it gives you a better idea of how the industry works. If you're really unsure about something feel free to e-mail me at research.thomas(at)ntve.nl and I'll try to help you out.

Best,
Tom
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That's great feedback there Tom, thanks for that. While I don't have anyone contacting me just yet... I hope by the time I've crossed the Americas I will have some desirable footage. I'll endeavour to refer back to this post. :)
 
That's great feedback there Tom, thanks for that. While I don't have anyone contacting me just yet... I hope by the time I've crossed the Americas I will have some desirable footage. I'll endeavour to refer back to this post.
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No problem, good luck!

Also I was wondering if giving out rights to a video could in anyway effect monetization or the "Standard YouTube Licence" which we publish videos under?
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I forgot to cover this but it's actually kind of complicated. There are two things that we need to consider; licenses and rights.

Ownership and distribution rights are important so don't sell them. Rights allow you, the owner, to license the video and use the video however you like. As long as you own the rights you don't need to worry about the Youtube monetization etc. You are not in violation of any of their terms. However, if you sell the rights to a company they can theoretically force you to take down their video. Nevertheless, I assume that the company is not interested in buying the rights because they are usually very expensive and the profit yield in this case is pretty low.

Instead, they are more likely to ask for a license. The only thing you need to keep an eye out for is whether the license is exclusive or non-exclusive. For example, if this Danish company has an exclusive license on your video in Denmark, you will be in breach of the contract by having the same video online available to the public. You may therefore need to block the country or have a explicit statement in the contract stating that the license is exclusive but your videos can stay online.

What you really want is a non-exclusive license so that several other companies can license the video at the same time and in the same territory. You don't need to worry about Youtube or breaching any clauses of contracts etc. This is by far the easiest and simplest solution.

Hope that makes sense.
 
NTVEurope said:
Hey,

I was actually lurking on Motovlog trying to get in touch with a rider called LDR, but since he's not replying at the moment I have some time to kill.

I work for a Japanese television network who regularly licenses videos from youtube, liveleak, dailymotion, reddit etc etc.

Basically you have 2 options when a media company such as ours contacts you;

1.) You can ask for a licensing fee. The actual costs involved depend largely on the quality of the footage and the subject matter. The 'rarer' the video the higher the price. For amateur footage we usually give a starting offer for about 150 Euros but this is negotiable and can go up to 500 Euros. The problem is, if you start with a 500 Euro offer, a smaller production company might get scared off by the high costs. That is why I recommend that you try to give a reasonable licensing fee for your videos, if you're fair they may even ask to broadcast another one of your videos which in turn might yield higher profits for you.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of companies that try to take advantage of amateur video uploaders. So I'll put in a few key points that you should keep in mind.

-Make sure that all your agreements with the company are written down so that you have proof of statements. (I can't stress this enough)
-Find out the basic conditions the production company wants:
1 Which territory of broadcast?
2 Which program? (Ask them to send you a sample screener of the show itself)
3 How many times do they intend to use the video?
4 How long is the license period for? (minimum is usually 1 year)
5 Exclusive or non-exclusive (this is a big factor in determining the cost of the license.)
6 Is there sub-licensing involved? (ie. does this company buy your video license and then sell it again to another company for profit?)

Now that I write it all down for the first time it might seem scary to a first-timer but in all reality it's usually quite simple. Ask them to draft a licensing contract and make sure to read the fine print. Like everything else, the TV industry is 95% decent people, 5% assholes.

2.) Option 2 is to simply give your video away for free. On one hand this will give you a massive promotion boost. If your youtube account and such are connected to adsense this is a pretty smart move because you will gain viewers. On the other hand, now that the company knows you're willing to prostitute yourself for free, they will take everything that they can get their grubby little hands on. Make sure to be very clear in your correspondence with them about what you're willing to give for free. You'll need to balance the benefits versus the drawbacks yourself.

That's my two cents on the matter. I hope it gives you a better idea of how the industry works. If you're really unsure about something feel free to e-mail me at research.thomas(at)ntve.nl and I'll try to help you out.

Best,
Tom
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so do you work for some sort of clip show oh and fyi if you need any clips off me in the future feel free to ask and thank you for telling us how it all works
 
TrailChaser said:
I'm sure getting footage of a tornado in California would bring a really nice paycheck.
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Only because they are a bit of a novelty out here. I am originally from Iowa so storms like that don't even phase me. Just a note, this entire topic was the inspiration for the vlog I recorded tonight. Should go live sometime next week :D
 
Also be careful where you upload items as it may be in the T&Cs that the website has exclusive right. i.e. I know a biker who works for a photo agency who says they and others sign exclusivity deals with companies like flickr giving them access to most or all of the uploaded photos. Thus you become the paparazzi, taking a snap of AnnaLynne McCord in McDonalds and uploading to some photo hosting site, then you see your own pic in the papers the next day without even being asked!

I made a huge custard cream biscuit once (don't ask) and added to the website pimpthatsnack.com (don't ask) and next thing I knew it was a full page spread in the The Sun newspaper and the like, as the site had sold it to them as I had inadvertantly waivered my rights.

Big thanks to Tom for the above comments! It's not often a forum lurker turned member provides such valuable information! :D
 
Premises187 said:
Has anyone had this before?

"We are producing a TV-show to be shown on a Danish national TV-channel this fall.
In this show we would like to show some or all of your video. I am contacting you to ask for your permission to use it. This means that you give us the right (without limitations) to use the video."

I see it as a good way to increase popularity.
But I'm worried they might use it in a slanderous light.
I'll probably make a usage clause that they have to agree on.

Also I was wondering if giving out rights to a video could in anyway effect monetization or the "Standard YouTube Licence" which we publish videos under?

In the past I've just ignored TV and radio show offers.
I was wondering what you guys might know or have experienced?
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goign on prime time tv, any clip should sell for atleast 200 bucks, and thats for a 1 time use. you have to be carefull as that company can sell / give it to all the other companies and you can t do shit. they would want u to sign a contract. not worth the risk. thats what i partnered with RPM. any req's like that i refer em to rpm / social blade and they haggle a price
 
Big thanks to Tom for the above comments! It's not often a forum lurker turned member provides such valuable information!
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Hehe, you're welcome!

so do you work for some sort of clip show oh and fyi if you need any clips off me in the future feel free to ask and thank you for telling us how it all works
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Well I work on a variety of different programs, some of which are clip shows. I'll keep an eye on you but sadly we're usually only interested in crash footage or close calls etc. Unless something truly extraordinary happens. The main problem is that our audience doesn't speak English so all your commentaries etc don't add anything. Such is the nature of the business I'm afraid.

goign on prime time tv, any clip should sell for atleast 200 bucks, and thats for a 1 time use. you have to be carefull as that company can sell / give it to all the other companies and you can t do shit. they would want u to sign a contract. not worth the risk. thats what i partnered with RPM. any req's like that i refer em to rpm / social blade and they haggle a price
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If your videos do actually go viral and you don't know how to handle it, I strongly suggest you use a company called 'Viral Spiral' that acts as an intermediary between media companies and the individual uploader. We personally dislike dealing with them because they are good at negotiating a high licensing fee, but in effect this protects you and your videos from being taken advantage of. http://www.viralspiralgroup.com/
 
NTVEurope said:
Big thanks to Tom for the above comments! It's not often a forum lurker turned member provides such valuable information!
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Hehe, you're welcome!

so do you work for some sort of clip show oh and fyi if you need any clips off me in the future feel free to ask and thank you for telling us how it all works
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Well I work on a variety of different programs, some of which are clip shows. I'll keep an eye on you but sadly we're usually only interested in crash footage or close calls etc. Unless something truly extraordinary happens. The main problem is that our audience doesn't speak English so all your commentaries etc don't add anything. Such is the nature of the business I'm afraid.

goign on prime time tv, any clip should sell for atleast 200 bucks, and thats for a 1 time use. you have to be carefull as that company can sell / give it to all the other companies and you can t do shit. they would want u to sign a contract. not worth the risk. thats what i partnered with RPM. any req's like that i refer em to rpm / social blade and they haggle a price
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If your videos do actually go viral and you don't know how to handle it, I strongly suggest you use a company called 'Viral Spiral' that acts as an intermediary between media companies and the individual uploader. We personally dislike dealing with them because they are good at negotiating a high licensing fee, but in effect this protects you and your videos from being taken advantage of. http://www.viralspiralgroup.com/
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i had viral sprial contact me, i decided not to go with them after reading the contract.
 
i had viral sprial contact me, i decided not to go with them after reading the contract.
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Interesting, I've only ever seen their licensing contract so I don't know how it is from the uploader's perspective. If you don't mind me asking can I ask what turned you off? Sometimes other amateur video creators come to me for help and I'd like to have a better idea of what it's like from their side of the negotiating table.
 
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