What should I do?

R-Rated · Sep 19, 2019

L. Bilious said:
The whole point of the 1st gear challenge is to show how fast your bike goes in 1st gear- i.e. show the speed reading.

I thought it was just to have fun. There is no prize money as far as I know

R-Rated · Sep 20, 2019

L. Bilious said:
It is for fun. There's lots of fun in bragging rights.

Ultimate bragging rights would be to show it and then if anyone has issues, own up to it. Nothing settles who is fastest than papers!

Spin it into having a pal play the authorities and arrest you on camera. Then everyone will wonder if it was real or staged.

HippoDrone · Sep 20, 2019

Just edit the speedo into another video where you talk about the challenge!

HippoDrone · Sep 20, 2019

L. Bilious said:
Everyone's comments are helping to shape the footage into a workable storyline.

It's such a shame my editing skills can't translate the masterpiece in my head onto the screen.

hahahaha, it is things like this that allow us to learn new editing skills!

RideOnTwo · Sep 20, 2019

If you are worried about it just record it somewhere else like a parking lot. empty parking lot is fine for this sort of thing, if there is a chance you get a ticket don't post it. The other option is to ignore the quest altogether.

FloridaMan · Sep 20, 2019

R-Rated said:
Haha! First of all which sparrow are we talking about African or European?

Back long before RADAR there was this method of determining speed...
Clocking

Now I know everyone here understands relativity and speed so I will skip breaking out the chalkboard for now. However if little bird (clouds or whatever) is moving at a steady and constant pace but our friend increases rate of travel then we got a problem.

And back in a previous career we had to visually estimate a vehicle's speed within 5 mph before we could even flip the radar switch. Got retested every year just so we could play with the neat toys.

We never saw the other person's speedometer and won everytime.

I know how clocking works, but being able to accurately get that off a bird or a cloud that's filmed by a gopro on a motorcycle? I don't see that holding up in court. Fortunately though here in Florida we are protected from any of this. We can't be charged for a traffic violation based on a youtube video.

MotoGinji · Sep 20, 2019

HippoDrone said:
Folk have gone to prison in the UK for speeding on YouTube!

That is fucked up. In Holland they may use Youtube videos as evidence to add to your punishment on a different crime. But they cannot punish you on the video itself since they need the Date when it happenned, and they need to see it themselves or have witnesses since youtube videos can be edited and tampered with. So youtube videos can only be evidence to add a different crime, but not be a reason to get punished by itself. UNLESS you are like a 3 million sub having channel with a lot of influence. Then they might punish you just because of the major influence you may have with your actions if it goes unpunished.

R-Rated · Sep 20, 2019

FloridaMan said:
I know how clocking works, but being able to accurately get that off a bird or a cloud that's filmed by a gopro on a motorcycle? I don't see that holding up in court. Fortunately though here in Florida we are protected from any of this. We can't be charged for a traffic violation based on a youtube video.

Sorry for the confusion. My point would play out like this. Picture a crowded courtroom.

Defense: Your honor, the footage was altered in a manner to make it only appear the defendant was exceeding the speed limit. They never actually exceeded the limit.

Prosecution: Your honor if that were the the case then why is only the defendant's vehicle appears to speed up yet that cloud (bird or whatever) that is moving independently appears to remain moving nearly the same constant speed throughout the video? I ask, if the footage was edited then would not the entire footage all speed up at the same rate? In other words, the cloud would appear to move faster at same increase as the defendant? Since the independent moving objects all do not increase their rate movement equally as the bike in question we can safely say the footage was not speed up.

So if the footage is not indeed sped up and there are ( goes into explaining clocking, then shows distance between two fixed points shown in the video, does the math for the court, and concludes with the rate of travel)

Judge mulls it over and if guilty verdict is rendered - spanking plus court costs. If not guilty, then just court costs.

Sure it may seem like a waste of the courts time but think how long they all went to law school and sat through boring classes.

FloridaMan · Sep 20, 2019

R-Rated said:
Sorry for the confusion. My point would play out like this. Picture a crowded courtroom.

Defense: Your honor, the footage was altered in a manner to make it only appear the defendant was exceeding the speed limit. They never actually exceeded the limit.

Prosecution: Your honor if that were the the case then why is only the defendant's vehicle appears to speed up yet that cloud (bird or whatever) that is moving independently appears to remain moving nearly the same constant speed throughout the video? I ask, if the footage was edited then would not the entire footage all speed up at the same rate? In other words, the cloud would appear to move faster at same increase as the defendant? Since the independent moving objects all do not increase their rate movement equally as the bike in question we can safely say the footage was not speed up.

So if the footage is not indeed sped up and there are ( goes into explaining clocking, then shows distance between two fixed points shown in the video, does the math for the court, and concludes with the rate of travel)

Judge mulls it over and if guilty verdict is rendered - spanking plus court costs. If not guilty, then just court costs.

Sure it may seem like a waste of the courts time but think how long they all went to law school and sat through boring classes.

Yeah, I would agree with that. It is possible to edit footage so it looks like only the bike is going faster, but not easy. I think I'm just coming from somewhere the video isn't sufficient evidence like MotoGinji says, so it's a foreign idea to get prosecuted over a video. And yeah, nothing is a waste of the courts time. The courts aren't out for justice, they're just trying to make money.

HippoDrone · Sep 21, 2019

That looks quite handy!

R-Rated · Sep 21, 2019

L. Bilious said:
Yeah.
You can't lose your licence for trespass, right?

All airstrips look the same when you hit Warp 5.

LoneWally · Sep 23, 2019

Glad you manage to sort it. I know BikingBuddies went on track with his R1

What should I do?

Should I make the vlog?

No. You don't want to get into trouble with the law.

Yes. Because your channel is shit and no one watches it.

Yes. Because we can all laugh when you lose your licence.

Yes. Go on, you know you want to.

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