I was doing 60mph in a 70 mph. I have no idea the trucks are not moving if anything I think the one on the right is overtaking. Which indicates moving traffic. As soon as I realise they are not moving I slam on the brakes and the wheels just slide. The car driver said he put on his hazards because he had to emergency stop. Luckily for him he had 4 wheels and better brakes.
lewis94iify
Wannabie Member
Haha, was wondering if it would be anyone on here 
I think it's the very first swerve bit that makes people think you were riding like a dick, whether you were or not. The video is a bit out of context in that way. At least it was just your pride that was hurt.
I think it's the very first swerve bit that makes people think you were riding like a dick, whether you were or not. The video is a bit out of context in that way. At least it was just your pride that was hurt.Kimi the Worm
Wannabie Member
I can see how this happened as the brakes on a Bandit are pretty poor.... however I, personally would have applied them earlier
ham
Wannabie Member
I'm still a new rider so maybe I have no idea, but I can see how a lapse in concentration could turn that normal commute into a shit moment. At least on video, the trucks quickly appeared and I'm guessing you were focusing on the car and/or looking in the mirrors. A motorway isn't a place you'd expect two trucks to be stopped like that.
Glad you're not too badly hurt.
Enjoy the youtube commenters haha
Glad you're not too badly hurt.
Enjoy the youtube commenters haha
crackthepipe999
Wannabie Member
Gotta say I'm quite surprised at how people voice their opinions on here. The poor bloke has smashed his bike, obviously knows that his own actions/inactions caused it. We certainly don't need to give him a hard time when he has the whole of YT calling him a tw@t. I believe everybody is capable of making bad decisions! I'm sure for his 1 bad decision he had mane 100 good decisions when riding his bike. I wish you all the best in the future bud!
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Trinith
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That is irrelevant. Too fast for current conditions is still too fast.ryantcb said:
Focus on improving your judgement. I've made the same mistake, infact I think everyone has. It happens to us all, and fortunately in my case I missed the truck. Stopped with my knee 1 inch from the bumper.
Panic braking is not intuitive. This is something else everyone needs to practice. Your body wants to mash the brakes as hard as possible and hope for the best. The reality is that doing this will almost certainly send you into the back of whatever you want to avoid. Another relatively common mistake that has to be worked on to be overcome.
No way did he have better brakes. He was probably going slower and more than likely noticed the hazard before you. Cars have 7-10x more kinetic energy than a sportbike travelling at the same speed. The sportbike most likely has 3 disc brakes, where many cars only have 2, with 2 shitty drum brakes on the back. The bike physically has more stopping power, and about 1/10th of the energy to dissipate. Basically, with the exception of some ridiculously high end sports cars and the common, heavy, cruiser, if a car can stop in a given distance, so can a bike.
You're clearly ok, and the bike can be fixed. Just consider this a pretty expensive lesson and move on. Don't worry about what the idiots on liveleak or YT say. Most of them are not like the two of us, they've never been in that situation and most likely would have plowed into the back of the truck.
Trinith
Wannabie Member
People are free to voice their opinion however they want. Just because they share a common interest doesn't mean they're going to be nice to each other. Also, the guy thinks a car has better brakes than he does..so it's not obvious that he knows his own actions caused anything. If he did his statement would have simply been "I didn't brake early enough."crackthepipe999 said:
crackthepipe999
Wannabie Member
Trinith said:
I'm not saying your not free to, but what I mean is what's the point in giving him a hard time. In my eyes it's no different to the kids calling him a deuche on YT
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TheDutchTexan
Wannabie Member
Nope, you're not a dick... You just failed at looking ahead. Which pretty much means you failed at participating in traffic. I am just happy you lived to learn from your mistake, I had a family friend go down and run over by a semi. The bike slid clear, he did not. We never knew what happened, but he was a motorcycle cop, so I can assume he knew how to ride.
YTStrider
Wannabie Member
Well, I'll say first off, if you're going to ride quickly, you need to be more observant. I won't say it's smart, in fact I'll definitely say it's dumb, but I very commonly do a lot of speeding. Maybe 80 or so in 50s, (if not worse, but I won't admit to anything) as long as there aren't too many cars to deal with. But I always prepare for the idiots to do the worst thing they can and be in my way and I'm ready on how to avoid them.
Riding almost any type of bike will allow you to stop MILES faster, harder and quicker than a car unless it's a Zonda or Veyron. My asshole, oops I mean opinion, about this is that you had a lapse in focus while speeding and didn't use enough of your front brakes. Our rear brakes are (nearly) useless. You could have cranked on those front brakes a hell of a lot more. And, of course, don't jerk the lever, and don't lock them up, but they can handle SO much braking.
When in doubt, lean more. When in fear, brake harder.
Only exception is if you're locked up already. The kinetic friction coefficient is about half of the static friction coefficient. In other words, a well-placed tire braking hard has DOUBLE the braking capability than a tire locked up and sliding. -source- physics. Google it.
Riding almost any type of bike will allow you to stop MILES faster, harder and quicker than a car unless it's a Zonda or Veyron. My asshole, oops I mean opinion, about this is that you had a lapse in focus while speeding and didn't use enough of your front brakes. Our rear brakes are (nearly) useless. You could have cranked on those front brakes a hell of a lot more. And, of course, don't jerk the lever, and don't lock them up, but they can handle SO much braking.
When in doubt, lean more. When in fear, brake harder.
Only exception is if you're locked up already. The kinetic friction coefficient is about half of the static friction coefficient. In other words, a well-placed tire braking hard has DOUBLE the braking capability than a tire locked up and sliding. -source- physics. Google it.
supermoto59
Gear up FFS!
That feeling, argh! Glad you're all ok.
thunderous71
Daddy
Your alive and you have learned a very valuable lesson (and got the video to prove it, now all you need is the T-Shirt).
To all the superior riders comments I have no doubt at some point in your riding career you too have ridden beyond your capabilities but had the luck never to be caught out.
To all the superior riders comments I have no doubt at some point in your riding career you too have ridden beyond your capabilities but had the luck never to be caught out.
YTStrider
Wannabie Member
Thunderous71-
You are exactly correct, just luck. It looks like skill, but it's luck. One extra piece of gravel, a little drop of water, one more car, one little dip in the road, we'd all be down. But we see our mistakes in those situations too. The best part is that he is still alive and kickin (possibly literally).
Trinith-
I do indeed. You are now my physics friend haha
You are exactly correct, just luck. It looks like skill, but it's luck. One extra piece of gravel, a little drop of water, one more car, one little dip in the road, we'd all be down. But we see our mistakes in those situations too. The best part is that he is still alive and kickin (possibly literally).
Trinith-
I do indeed. You are now my physics friend haha
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