dandoolittle
Site owner, lovely and adorable
he broke his ankle
Road Rage Against Motoryclist Turns Physical
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he broke his ankle
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
Cool headed biker. He did the right thing!
MrJoel
Rom: one-one-six unashamed
Biker was very calm about it and leaves no doubt that the other guy is 100% in the wrong. The biker could have done much worse but when you notice an attacker's mind is not right then you have to lay off if possible. I was hot head on by a man in his upper 80's about 15 years ago. Two trucks at 55mph in different directions, his a 3/4 ton Chevy, mine a little Nissan.... He had all the appearances of being drunk, was ready to fight me for hitting his truck in my lane...but sometimes the fight is to protect you both from their actions. This rider...did great and deserves a beer!
MrJoel
Rom: one-one-six unashamed
Latest update here : http://m.yumasun.com/news/road-rage...10a-2a84-11e5-8ba1-67a969d8a88d.html?mode=jqm
I'm concerned about the advice the cops give about just getting out of the situation though. These guys were caught in traffic and even admit to being in the wrong (although no explaination is given as to why they cut the cager off, I've had to before just because of traffic condition or what not)....this is why we wear a camera!
I'm concerned about the advice the cops give about just getting out of the situation though. These guys were caught in traffic and even admit to being in the wrong (although no explaination is given as to why they cut the cager off, I've had to before just because of traffic condition or what not)....this is why we wear a camera!
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
It appeared to me that the biker was lane splitting and then pulled in front of the car at the intersection. Not sure if that's legal in AZ or not. In states where it's not the norm to lane split, like Texas, car drivers get mad about it, because they think somehow it puts them in danger (which it doesn't) or they are just mad because they wanted to be "first" and the biker "cheated", like they're in some kind of competition.
What the car driver did, I counted 3 counts of simple assault. The two punches at the biker and the shove on his passenger. The threats he made while on the ground could probably be another assault charge, but it sounds like the State is going with "disorderly conduct" and "threats". All of those are misdemeanor charges, so he probably won't do time, unless he's been a problem for law enforcement in the past. I don't know AZ law, but in Texas, Simple Assault with minor bodily injury (busted lip, black eye) can get 1 year in jail and a fine of $4000. If the guy and girl weren't injured, it would be downgraded to a Class C Misdemeanor and it would just be a $500 fine for each count.
Why the biker was smart for not swinging on him or ground-pounding him while he had him down is that the law would consider that a separate act of assault. Probably a "wash" (nobody gets charged) while they were standing, because the cager could have still been a threat, but the law now considers it "fighting" rather than SD, but once he had the cager down, had he pummeled him, it would have been Aggravated Assault, which is a Felony(2-99 years in Prison, depending upon severity) if convicted! Why? He had him restrained and the guy was no longer a threat. Also, hitting someone's head against concrete is considered using a deadly weapon against him because it can cause death or permanent disfigurement.
And you all know how much the law loves bikers....
By simply restraining him and waiting for the cops, the biker stayed almost unquestionably in the right in terms of the confrontation itself. It's a good example for all of us!
What the car driver did, I counted 3 counts of simple assault. The two punches at the biker and the shove on his passenger. The threats he made while on the ground could probably be another assault charge, but it sounds like the State is going with "disorderly conduct" and "threats". All of those are misdemeanor charges, so he probably won't do time, unless he's been a problem for law enforcement in the past. I don't know AZ law, but in Texas, Simple Assault with minor bodily injury (busted lip, black eye) can get 1 year in jail and a fine of $4000. If the guy and girl weren't injured, it would be downgraded to a Class C Misdemeanor and it would just be a $500 fine for each count.
Why the biker was smart for not swinging on him or ground-pounding him while he had him down is that the law would consider that a separate act of assault. Probably a "wash" (nobody gets charged) while they were standing, because the cager could have still been a threat, but the law now considers it "fighting" rather than SD, but once he had the cager down, had he pummeled him, it would have been Aggravated Assault, which is a Felony(2-99 years in Prison, depending upon severity) if convicted! Why? He had him restrained and the guy was no longer a threat. Also, hitting someone's head against concrete is considered using a deadly weapon against him because it can cause death or permanent disfigurement.
And you all know how much the law loves bikers....
By simply restraining him and waiting for the cops, the biker stayed almost unquestionably in the right in terms of the confrontation itself. It's a good example for all of us!
dandoolittle
Site owner, lovely and adorable
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
Sometimes what I can do before coffee surprises even me. 
GHOSTNINJA
Lets do this!
This makes me so angry. I think the biker did the right thing on this one.
SwissMotard
The Swiss Motard
He reacted way better than all the people they'd punch him back. This biker has his head screwed on properly.
MrJoel
Rom: one-one-six unashamed
The seminary student here agrees
MrJoel
Rom: one-one-six unashamed
He admitted to swigging "four to five shots of whiskey," says the detailed story by James Gilbert.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...motorcyclist-takes-attacker-to-ground-7491698
Looked like a few more than the 4-5 shots he said he swigged...
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...motorcyclist-takes-attacker-to-ground-7491698
Looked like a few more than the 4-5 shots he said he swigged...
Lurch
Administrator
Unbelievable... assault whilst DUI, they should throw everything at him. What was that about he won't go to jail because he broke his ankle? Did I read that right? And what the hell was he doing driving in flip flops? That's illegal in many countries, and a stupid choice of footwear for driving or riding.
Bet he still is trying to blame the biker for his injury when he brought it on himself. Absolutely zero sympathy for him.
Bet he still is trying to blame the biker for his injury when he brought it on himself. Absolutely zero sympathy for him.
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
I understood it as they didn't take him directly to jail because of his ankle. Probably had to get it looked at first. If they're charging him, they would have had to book him in at some point. I never heard of anyone getting booked in while at the hospital. He'll probably get 90 days, maybe six months since they are pursuing multiple charges. Gotta remember, though, the charges are all misdemeanors.
The guy's a douche canoe. Texas is full of guys like him. I was splitting yesterday, due to traffic being stopped on the highway. A doctor (I know this because he had personalized plates) in a nice ass mercedes swerved onto the line to try to block me. He failed, of course. I went around and rev bombed the shit out of him. He's lucky I didn't take his mirror as a souvenir. Mercedes mirrors probably ain't cheap! He's earned a place in my latest motovlog with the new title onscreen of "Dr. Dickhead".
daHooligan
Wannabie Member
I would have totally beat his a$$, then probably felt bad afterwards because he looked kinda old. lol
Lurch
Administrator
I misunderstood the meaning of jail there. If you get arrested here for something minor, you can be taken to custody where the Police hold you in a cell at the station. Jail here is an actual prison where you stay when convicted. If you're arrested for something major and don't get bail then you can be held in a prison until your trial.
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