Motorbike Dealerships...

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Soulless82

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Hey Guys... another random question would you suggest buying a motorbike from a dealership or private... and if dealerships which ones would you recommend, single branded ie... suzuki - yamaha etc?!... Your input would be appericated :)
 
The only reason I don't buy bikes out of dealerships is because I can generally get them A LOT cheaper on eBay :) (Or from any private seller for that matter.)
 
gpzDave said:
The only reason I don't buy bikes out of dealerships is because I can generally get them A LOT cheaper on eBay :) (Or from any private seller for that matter.)

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I got my bike (ok needing a lot of work) from a private seller needed to get rid of it for £150 now any dealership would of cost me more like £400 - 500 so ...

Also my brother got his 2001 Ninja ZX6R J2 from a private seller for £900 a dealership would never have let go for that money..
 
But if you go to a dealership try to find a one brand dealership selling a different brand of bike (sounds silly)

My brother went to london to get his first bike at a triumph dealership. (he was picking up a Suzuki GS500) now usually they want it gone fast and at a lower price because having a suzuki bike outside of there TRIUMPH dealership looks bad :D
 
Soulless82 said:
Hey Guys... another random question would you suggest buying a motorbike from a dealership or private... and if dealerships which ones would you recommend, single branded ie... suzuki - yamaha etc?!... Your input would be appericated :)

With Dealerships you tend to get 3 month warranties or something similar ... i doubt a private seller would do the same LOL. I will only buy from a dealership as im too paranoid that a private seller will try and scam me :?
 
Dealerships can offer you a lot of security if you're not an expert on bikes, i.e. second hand warranties and the ability to trade in (doesn't apply to you i know) however they do have a terrible habit of ripping you off.

In my experience private dealerships tend to be more fair as far as pricing is concerned.

So long as you're happy with what you need to look at when buying privately do that because if you do your checks right it will save you money, if you'd rather be a bit more secure go for a dealership, but be prepared to pay for it!
 
POPE5HAT said:
Soulless82 said:
Hey Guys... another random question would you suggest buying a motorbike from a dealership or private... and if dealerships which ones would you recommend, single branded ie... suzuki - yamaha etc?!... Your input would be appericated :)

With Dealerships you tend to get 3 month warranties or something similar ... i doubt a private seller would do the same LOL. I will only buy from a dealership as im too paranoid that a private seller will try and scam me :?


Thats a good point that...
 
Warranties with dealerships aren't worth the paper there written on, 3months isn't long enough & they cancel out wear & tear.

3 months warranty you only get, Gearbox & Clutch warranty, Them 2 won't pack up within that period, you'd be stupid to take it back once they have fixed it. They will just get you with the 'Wear & Tear' script which they are legaly allowed to say but it's pointless in selling the bike then. They also promise to check the bike over throughly before you take it away which in some bike shops isn't the case. After working a weekend job at a certian bike shop they never once took it out for a test run after fitting/fixing the part it was due.

(Not all shops)

RCN know a good responce to your question, I think he's a private bike trader.

Everyone adds thier own commision don't get me wrong, but bike dealerships add so much it makes people look elsewere. If a bike shop is selling a bike on behalf of someonelse your allowed to ask for their contact information so you can check the actuall asking price or get them to remove it from the shop to sell it. Some dealerships like to add around £500+ to the value.

What you find in a dealership you will find someone selling the same on a auction site.
 
Not all Dealerships are Crooks. just make sure you go somewhere that is reputable and wont try and take your money and sell you peanuts. :)

Or Buy privately, if you see the bike at a good price then GO for it :D
 
I've had examples of both plusses and minuses. If you know what to look for it's worth taking the chance on private but some people who buy from me say that 1/ They can't be bothered to wait to sell their bike first so the P/X is so much easier amd 2/ Backup and peace of mind is important. I agree on the 1 make dealerships being overpriced, a local suzuki dealer wanted to charge £75 for a battery we charge £35 for! My bikes are on average £300 cheaper than these dealers and where "warranty" is concerned, I tell my customers to call me whatever the problem as I want their business in 2 years or so when they trade up again. One customer is on his 5th bike with me and won't use anyone else cos he has trust in us.

So, if you have a genuinely knowledgable friend (not just someone who thinks he knows what he's looking for as they won't pay for repairs if he's wrong) and want to buy privately, it can be rewarding.

Last year I went to buy a CBR125 on Ebay, won it, went to pick it up and the big ends were knocking, after saying he didn't know, the owner said he was gonna repair it and try to sell it again, I strongly believe he knew and hoped a novice buyer wouldn't be able to tell. Needless to say I walked away, thank god.
 
I presume there is a massive call for the 125 market compared to your 600 & thou sport bikes.
 
AZZ3R said:
I presume there is a massive call for the 125 market compared to your 600 & thou sport bikes.


Definately, 125s out-sell anything else. The CBR125 is very popular but big ends and rotten exhausts are the main problems.
 
POPE5HAT said:
Soulless82 said:
Hey Guys... another random question would you suggest buying a motorbike from a dealership or private... and if dealerships which ones would you recommend, single branded ie... suzuki - yamaha etc?!... Your input would be appericated :)

With Dealerships you tend to get 3 month warranties or something similar ... i doubt a private seller would do the same LOL. I will only buy from a dealership as im too paranoid that a private seller will try and scam me :?
+1
Dealerships have a reputation to look after too, and often give bikes the once over before selling them, so for example my newest purchase had been HPI checked by the dealership, had brand new tyres put on and they had a look over the mechanics before selling it on to me. As it has been said, they often give a warranty too so I always feel well looked after going to a dealership, and as I have no mechanical knowledge it gives me great piece of mind knowing they have looked for faults before buying the bike themselves or accepting it in part exchange. Whereas a private seller could e selling you anything, and if you dont know what to look for you could be buying a bike with a bent frame (have heard of it happening) or buying a bike that has been stolen, or one that will break down as soon as you get it home.

Although the piece of mind does come at a cost, and it really is up to you whether you justify the cost for the piece of mind

I would recommend going to a dealer if you have the money. If not, buy from a private seller and take someone along who knows what they are looking for
 
I would always buy from a dealer or larger second hand bike shop. At least you know that if anything goes wrong you have some comeback. Especially when a warranty is offered. I bought my Fazer from Jordan Bikes, even though I had to pay more for it, I have a six month warranty. Well worth it. I'd be too concerned about getting ripped off buying privately.
 
In the interest of full disclosure, I work at a dealership...

ON PRIVATE SALES:
Sometimes a "too good to be true" private sale has a few skeletons in the closet that show themselves once it's too late. Check your state/country's "lemon laws" to protect yourself as a buyer. Beware that a private sale, though, is generally considered "as is" in the eyes of the court, even if the seller lies to you. It's brutal, I know.

Keep in mind, too, that a little spit shine can go a long way to making a bike with a serious problem (or 2, or 20) look really good. Beware anyone that will not let you test ride.

If you go in there with your eyes wide open and know what to look for, you can find incredible deals on private sales, especially on a "fixer upper." I bought my scooter for $400, but it really wasn't running. Thankfully, it only took me about $100 to get it running, so I made out good. Sometimes the "it ran when I last parked it" doesn't just mean the carb is gummed up from sitting. Sometimes they parked it, because the last time it "ran" it made a horrible noise and stopped running. So, again, "buyer beware" on picking up a project. You may find yourself needing to rebuild the bottom end, or the transmission.

Sometimes, though, you'll get super lucky and find a private seller who has other reasons (other than mechanical) for wanting to urgently get rid of a bike. Financial issues, change in job or family (marriage, new baby, etc.), and so forth. Those are generally excellent deals, especially if the bike is well maintained. Beware if there is a lean on the bike. Be sure their paperwork is in order. See how they've maintained the bike. You will probably make out very, very well.



ON DEALERSHIPS:

You will have more legal recourse on a sour purchase. You will know the bike is sound and passes inspection. You will have all the paperwork in order. Price will be somewhat negotiable, but will obviously be higher than a private sale. Bike will be prepped and ready to ride, needing nothing. You will have the option to finance.

If you don't have your heart set on one particular bike, ask which ones they'd be more willing to work with you on. There may be models that have been there a while that they're sick of looking at, so to speak. Warranties vary dealer to dealer. Factory warranties are awesome (I've used my Kawasaki one), but are generally only offered on new purchases. For used, some dealers will have better warranties than others. If you've never purchased a vehicle from a dealer before, have an experienced friend/family go with you. You can end up being fed to the lions if you don't know what to say no to and what not to pass up.
 
I went to the local dealership for gear and blatantly said "if you look after us (me and my GF) we will keep coming back. Since then.he gave us small discount on gear but lately he has been giving us 40% off and freebies like chain lube whenever we need it. So build a rapour with any dealership and they will look after you.
 
Chuckles85 said:
I went to the local dealership for gear and blatantly said "if you look after us (me and my GF) we will keep coming back. Since then.he gave us small discount on gear but lately he has been giving us 40% off and freebies like chain lube whenever we need it. So build a rapour with any dealership and they will look after you.

A good dealership will do this for every customer, without the customer needing to initiate this.
 
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