Looking into cross posting or switching off Youtube

[whingnut]

So with the censorship changing constantly and the automated copyright deal youtube is starting to give me a headache. i cant help ppl playing music over the radio in traffic or in a parking lot. i don't like a lot of the politics of youtube either and its their game totally i understand it but i feel like sometimes i want to just not be on that platform. I've looked into cross posting to a few sites and seeing if anything pans out. i know of LBRY and Rumble. has anyone had luck with them or other sites as far as managing your content? i dont care for making money i want to do my channel to grow or at least help the motorcycle community.

 

[SighBored]

Sorry never heard or used those other sites. As for the copyright stuff, yes it can be a headache, so the best is to try to minimize songs/music in the background or in your content, but if it can't be helped, try to edit them out or quiet those bit during edit, or last option is try to dispute the claim saying it's music playing at the event and out of your control. No guarantee they will accept it but that's pretty much all you can do to fight the claims.

 

[Theodor]

I'll be following this thread with interest.

 

[Drakhen99]

YouTube being the biggest platform, has the most potential of exposure for your content. I looked at Rumble as well, but couldn't figure it out [TBH, I only spent a few minutes looking around on their site].

As for music in the background, I do like SIghBored says - I try to pick my recording locations to minimize it. If I'm inside a dealer and they're playing music, I will keep the part where I'm speaking and keyframe out the audio for the rest of the clips and overlay it with copyright-free music.

-John

 

[whingnut]

Sorry never heard or used those other sites. As for the copyright stuff, yes it can be a headache, so the best is to try to minimize songs/music in the background or in your content, but if it can't be helped, try to edit them out or quiet those bit during edit, or last option is try to dispute the claim saying it's music playing at the event and out of your control. No guarantee they will accept it but that's pretty much all you can do to fight the claims.

well i have done that quite a bit but sometimes its playing while my friends and I are talking or doing things that i don't want to lose the audio. i dispute everyone of them that says I'm ripping them off and i get the same reply "you are ripping them off" even when its obvious that the car that passed me is blasting Ozzy. i ride and vlog while commuting so its just how it is. then you get the guys in the group riding with their music full blast and having a good time i don't see how someone enjoying music over the radio outdoors as infringement on a copyright. hell I'm not even monetized. I'll just start putting in subtext saying all music playing over other persons radio or some such nonsense.

but i digress, the reason I'm looking at other platforms is to see if its worth while or if i can escape some of the flagging. if its not worth it then i wont do it for long. give me a bit and i will be set up on other site i just have to wait until i get home from deployment.

 

[SighBored]

If you aren't monetizing or concerned about that bit, then personally I think you shouldn't bother with the copyright claims bit, just let them claim, the video will still play, you will still have people watching it.. So you don't really lose anyway.

But if you are still dissatisfied with it, you can always try other platforms, however when it comes to copyright I don't think any platform would just let it slide, they (the platform) will be afraid of getting sued by the copyright owners so they need to take some action.

 

[Moto Mengy]

I've never heard of LBRY or Rumble. On the YT accidental music thing I just do my best to avoid getting random music on film, but when I do I cut it out completely. I've even reshot some stuff or did voice overs to cover it up a few times.

 

[scooterwuf]

Are you using the built in mic on your camera(s) or an external placed inside your helmet near your face or mouth? If the former then switching to an external may minimize the sound of outside music. If the latter, or if you are outside, off your bike and recording with your camera, you may need to just take sone time and record room tone - the natural ambience of a space (without any music playing in the background). You can edit the room tone parts in and expect to add voice over commentary to cover what was missing, or expect that those sections of your video where copyrighted music can be heard may not be useable.

Copyright policing doesn't always have to be about going after someone profiting over work without the owners permission. Sometimes it's about over exposing content that the owner doesn't want, or that they have to police violators to strengthen a future case where they do take someone into federal court (in the US) for a violation trial.

It's a pain in the A for sure.

- Wolf

 

[mymotorrad]

I watch a guy named Rick Beato. He does music education on YT, over a million subs. He kept getting hit and some of his videos take a long time to make. He did one on a led zep song and got in trouble and his viewers got so pissed they hammered Jimmy Page on Twitter and Page gave permission. I think Beato may have testified in front of congress over this issue. Sometimes it's the owners of the music, the corps and sometimes the musicians themselves. Don Henley is one of the worse. The thing is, with someone like Beato, he's going to create more sales for them. He doesn't play whole songs straight through, but it's an analysis, What Makes This Song Great. Some bands are cool with it though. They get it. In terms of how music ends up on ours, there needs to be a little more common sense, but money is money. I've thought about covering tunes, but that would probably get nailed too. I have a friend that does electronic music and he lets me use a couple and I have a couple I recorded in a rehearsal space 30 years ago, basically 2 mics. They are a little rough, but sound ok. Anyway, I think there will come a day where all the rules that come out of the corps politics will hurt YT and FB and I am not taking a particular political position, but when they start demonetizing channels because they don't like the content, it's a problem. Monopolies end up killing themselves at some point.