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In the UK, we have security guards at the front of our shops. I can say from experience that they catch a heck of a lot of shoplifters.

While he may have legally done something wrong, as curly said, if there were no roadblocks, I can 100% guarantee that this fellow in the video would be in the sherrif's face, demanding that more should be done to prevent illegal immigration. The government is in a lose lose situation. They take action, they have jizz mops like this guy video them, or they take no action, and they get jizz mops like this guy, criticizing them, saying 'I should've voted for the other guy'

If anything, this roadblock should be enforced. You don't comply with what the officer says, you get arrested. I'm fairly sure thats what would happen in this country.
 
Bikermole said:
While he may have legally done something wrong, as curly said, if there were no roadblocks, I can 100% guarantee that this fellow in the video would be in the sherrif's face, demanding that more should be done to prevent illegal immigration. The government is in a lose lose situation. They take action, they have jizz mops like this guy video them, or they take no action, and they get jizz mops like this guy, criticizing them, saying 'I should've voted for the other guy'

Contrary to what some people would have you believe, they actually catch a fair number of illegals through road blocks and roadside checks. Infact just last year (ok, maybe 2 years ago...I don't remember) INS caught a whole truckload (literally..) a few hundred miles north of the border headed for Houston. They were fed, given a place to sleep for the night, allowed to wash up, and then put on buses and sent back to Mexico where they came from. Saddest part is the expense they pay to the traffickers to try to get in, which is usually astronomical, which they do not get back.

People who like to shove a camera in a LEOs face and start challenging them on every little thing piss me off. They act like the officer has the ability to change the law, and rather than follow the proper course of action they do 2 things - They antagonize people who are (usually) trying to help the general public, and they make themselves look like jackasses in the process.
 
Those checkpoints are a joke. Sry, but it's the sad truth... Professional coyotes know in advance about the checkpoints and if you've ever been around the US/Mex border you'll know there are plenty of ways around out there even if it means going overland. Everyone has GPS on their phone so it's not like they're out there with paper maps flapping in the dusty wind trying to figure out which way is north.
There are about 10-20million illegal immigrants in this country. Very few of them have ever seen a checkpoint on the US side of the border. I'm from Houston and know plenty of Mexicans who cross the border illegally whenever they please just like thousands upon thousands of others without ever having to pass any checkpoints. Have you actually seen how vast Texas, New Mexico and Arizona really is?(take a drive sometime camp where ever you want, just make sure to bring plenty of water and a gun) I've driven it and spent over 5hrs driving 65mph without ever seeing another car, person.

If those checkpoints help some people believe that someone is actually doing something to solve our illegal immigration problem than I guess that's reason enough to keep flushing taxpayer money down the drain on a lost cause. They have wasted way more on way less afterall.

What if every time you got caught red handed stealing something from a store the punishment was to be set free after getting a free ride home, and if the ride takes too much time you get free food also. Then of course you are free to go back to the same store again the next day and try again.

The risk simply has to outweigh the reward! Then the problem will go away all by itself.
 
CurlyBlakey said:
I've spent the last year and a half studying American politics buddy so don't think I don't know what I'm on about.

I know why he did what he did, I also know why the roadblock was there and the tensions that surround both. What he needs to understand, and it seems you need to also is that the only other option to this kind of stuff is no checks whatsoever, so you can get used to the federal government "undermining your rights" or you can get used to massive immigration and all the issues that come with it, it's up to you.

At the end of the day if the roadblock wasn't needed then it wouldn't be there. The government do not set out to infringe your rights, they set out to protect your society. If they did anything else they wouldn't be in charge. It took up more than his day to pick a fight with the poor girl than it would have done if he found some space in his brain not occupied by his encyclopaedic knowledge of the constitution to understand quite why that roadblock might be there.

I've studied things in my life as well, but there's a difference between studying and understanding. Studying American politics is not the same as being an American citizen and watching year by year the "elected" officials strip away our rights very slowly. This man was not only protecting his rights, but those of every other citizen as well. If enough of us start to fight back then we will make a fundamental change in the war between the American people and the government. Personally, I think we are overdue for another Timmy.
 
DodgeRider26 said:
CurlyBlakey said:
I've spent the last year and a half studying American politics buddy so don't think I don't know what I'm on about.

I know why he did what he did, I also know why the roadblock was there and the tensions that surround both. What he needs to understand, and it seems you need to also is that the only other option to this kind of stuff is no checks whatsoever, so you can get used to the federal government "undermining your rights" or you can get used to massive immigration and all the issues that come with it, it's up to you.

At the end of the day if the roadblock wasn't needed then it wouldn't be there. The government do not set out to infringe your rights, they set out to protect your society. If they did anything else they wouldn't be in charge. It took up more than his day to pick a fight with the poor girl than it would have done if he found some space in his brain not occupied by his encyclopaedic knowledge of the constitution to understand quite why that roadblock might be there.

I've studied things in my life as well, but there's a difference between studying and understanding. Studying American politics is not the same as being an American citizen and watching year by year the "elected" officials strip away our rights very slowly. This man was not only protecting his rights, but those of every other citizen as well. If enough of us start to fight back then we will make a fundamental change in the war between the American people and the government. Personally, I think we are overdue for another Timmy.

A war? Did you seriously just call it a war!? Christ man, that's just ridiculous, so ridiculous there's no point even going on trying to argue the other point. Sometimes I wish we hadn't been such dicks when we were in charge over there, then there wouldn't be such a paranoid reaction to anything to do with your rights.
 
ToySoldier said:
i love how this has gotten so so far off toppic hhahaha XD

:) Dude, I drove past your work place twice today. How's it going?



I think the difference of opinion about complying and getting along with your day quickly and stress-free versus the rites and freedom of not being pestered as you go about your day seems to never resolve itself. Which goes hand in hand with if "everyone should own a gun" and "what's the point in having guns, when ultimately they are there to kill".

I think although we have similar freedoms and speak the same language our cultures are very different. :)
 
Neilisin said:
ToySoldier said:
i love how this has gotten so so far off toppic hhahaha XD

:) Dude, I drove past your work place twice today. How's it going?


im grate man mainly because i got today off lol but still found myself down there trying to work out why my wage was lower then i was expecting lol =]
 
ToySoldier said:
Neilisin said:
ToySoldier said:
i love how this has gotten so so far off toppic hhahaha XD

:) Dude, I drove past your work place twice today. How's it going?


im grate man mainly because i got today off lol but still found myself down there trying to work out why my wage was lower then i was expecting lol =]

haha maybe something to do with a certain Quad? :P
 
CurlyBlakey said:
Sometimes I wish we hadn't been such dicks when we were in charge over there, then there wouldn't be such a paranoid reaction to anything to do with your rights.

And with that comment you just validated everything he said. Kid, someday you'll learn that governments haven't lost the ability to be dicks.
 
MotoRick said:
CurlyBlakey said:
Sometimes I wish we hadn't been such dicks when we were in charge over there, then there wouldn't be such a paranoid reaction to anything to do with your rights.

And with that comment you just validated everything he said. Kid, someday you'll learn that governments haven't lost the ability to be dicks.

No, I didn't. And don't call me kid.

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