LimeyRider
Who left the rain on?
I see its been taken down now, but what was the channel? Going to have a look to see if myself or anyone I know have been caught out by them
Huge channel lifts your footage?
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Great idea! Here is the channel.
LimeyRider
Who left the rain on?
Thanks dude, I'll jump over and have a scout about!
Edit: - Looks very state side orientated, I'll take a punt and say that all the guys I know will be safe from it haha.
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It would be a good idea to keep and eye on it since his video was released after mine.
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I hope it helps others on here. I also hope no one has to deal with it.Dude, that's EPIC! I love it.
A win for the good guys
-John
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Hey I would not be surprised if he runs out of roads in the US and expands out to more countries.
Theodor
Don't wannabe
Maybe I should get ahead and already prepare a list for my country, otherwise, who is he going to rip off, once he starts researching us...
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Right! If there is nothing for him to lift from in Estonia then your country might get overlooked.
scooterwuf
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Glad to hear you won your claim. Th one thing that got me upset was YouTube's claim about whether or not the taken clip of your footage would affect your ability to profit from it (or words to that effect). That's not how Copyright Law works.
It doesn't matter if the copyright owner makes a profit from their work or not. It's about who has permission to make a copy of your work. Period. Youtube's interpretation seems based on their terms and agreement policy but not on the actual US Federal Copyright Law of 1976 (last time it was revised).
What's important here is that you defend your work, because that will have a impact on whether your take anyone who infriges on your work to court. Also, if YouTube denies your claim and allows someone to take a clip from your posted work, you can go over their head and threaten to sue the owner of the YouTube channel that took your work, and possibly YouTube as well. YouTube doesn't have final say on who gets to take and use your work.
However, to really win in court you would need to prove the work is yours which would require you to file for a copyright from the Copyright Office of the Library of Congress (which is about $65). Also, if you win in Federal court, you win what the court awards you, and the other guy has to pay your legal fees too.
Last, the poor man's copyright doesn't work. Never use it.
- Wolf
It doesn't matter if the copyright owner makes a profit from their work or not. It's about who has permission to make a copy of your work. Period. Youtube's interpretation seems based on their terms and agreement policy but not on the actual US Federal Copyright Law of 1976 (last time it was revised).
What's important here is that you defend your work, because that will have a impact on whether your take anyone who infriges on your work to court. Also, if YouTube denies your claim and allows someone to take a clip from your posted work, you can go over their head and threaten to sue the owner of the YouTube channel that took your work, and possibly YouTube as well. YouTube doesn't have final say on who gets to take and use your work.
However, to really win in court you would need to prove the work is yours which would require you to file for a copyright from the Copyright Office of the Library of Congress (which is about $65). Also, if you win in Federal court, you win what the court awards you, and the other guy has to pay your legal fees too.
Last, the poor man's copyright doesn't work. Never use it.
- Wolf
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For those that are unfamiliar (like me) what is the poor man's copyright?
Drakhen99
The Forrest Gump of Motovloggers
I believe it's sending yourself a copy of your work via USPS, which shows dates of ownership/creation.
Found it on Wikipedia:
Poor man's copyright - Wikipedia
-John
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That is what I remember as a child hearing Stephen King did. But that was back before PC/Mac so things were done on typewriters and he never opened the sealed packet.I believe it's sending yourself a copy of your work via USPS, which shows dates of ownership/creation.
Found it on Wikipedia:
Poor man's copyright - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
-John
With tech now then there are ways around the postal method. It will get worse as tech gets better as foretold in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. In one of the books it is explained that the guide came about from someone reading the facts of the universe that were on the backs of cereal boxes. That person wrote the original guide, sent it back in time prior to the cereal boxes idea and sued the cereal maker successfully for copyright infringement.
scooterwuf
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scooterwuf
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Geneally, with the Poor Man's Copyright, if it's used in a court of law the lawyer of the guy you're suing will instantly start to fist pump because they will order forensic test to show that the stamp and dates where tampered with, and that you probably mailed the check to yourself a few days ago.
The best thing is an official certificate from the Copyright Office of the Library of Congress. The problem is the cost of applying for one went from $5 (kept cheap because congress didn't want anyone to face difficulties in applying for one) to now a cost of $65 -$125.00.
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SOGGY BAWS
https://www.youtube.com/@soggybawsmoto
This is a really interesting thread. Looking at the guys style, I dont think he had grounds for claiming transformation, given your films title and focus.
I've lifted snippets of footage from YT for two films I've made, but always made sure I'm telling a different story from what the original content told. I dont use more than a few seconds to visually re-inforce a sentence of my own narrative, and always make sure that the total of any clips used are a small percentage against my own original footage.
When I first done this, I reached out to the original creators through their comments sections, but 90% of time time never heard back, so tend to credit the source in my description now, out of courtesy.
I can see what "GMR" might have been thinking as there is a huge amount of non story content out on YT, but I agree a line has been crossed here. Never come across his channel before, but they've done amazingly well for 23 videos.
I've lifted snippets of footage from YT for two films I've made, but always made sure I'm telling a different story from what the original content told. I dont use more than a few seconds to visually re-inforce a sentence of my own narrative, and always make sure that the total of any clips used are a small percentage against my own original footage.
When I first done this, I reached out to the original creators through their comments sections, but 90% of time time never heard back, so tend to credit the source in my description now, out of courtesy.
I can see what "GMR" might have been thinking as there is a huge amount of non story content out on YT, but I agree a line has been crossed here. Never come across his channel before, but they've done amazingly well for 23 videos.
Theodor
Don't wannabe
Maybe that's just what's left
Drakhen99
The Forrest Gump of Motovloggers
I think it's that style of channel: information. To me, it falls into the install/review category. The majority of viewers want to learn something from a video... and it's the rare MrBeast or Matt's Off-Road Recovery that get millions of viewers for the entertainment value. Motovlogs are harder to sell to people.
Just my $.02
-John
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