Great video about finding creativity and being creative (ignore the flashy word prompts throughout)

[R-Rated]

Admins, I hope I am posting this correctly in the right place. I think it is helpful for many -

I saw this video and at first I was like "boo-the-f-ing hooo" another huge creator whining about competition.

Then I watched the video. After ignoring the

words

that

kept

popping up

And other visual slight of hand BS I focused on the message and lesson. It was good. There is one weird thing about the quote from the film producer - that saying has been uttered before throughout history in one form or another. The first I heard it cited was in reference to recreating knowledge after an ancient library burned down. So even that quote cited is a copy of sorts.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

One of the problems we face as motovloggers, is we are a set format... we vlog, and we are on motorcycles... so to get people to watch our regular motovlogs, we need a good subject, catchy thumbnail and title, and I guess good words in our video description... but vlogs often don't have a specific subject unless you go out with the agenda of a set subject, which can often sound forced... Be ace if we had a magic algorithm that'd make our stuff be seen by millions hey!
I think the likes of Yaminoob realised motovlogs are not gonna get you a billion views or subs, so started doing those list vids, I am sure he cares not for me never watching his content... makes my skin crawl... but he rakes in the views and ad revenue!

 

[R-Rated]

I think the likes of Yaminoob realised motovlogs are not gonna get you a billion views or subs, so started doing those list vids, I am sure he cares not for me never watching his content... makes my skin crawl... but he rakes in the views and ad revenue!

His tale could have easily turned bad several ways at several times.

I remember when he was a small channel below 1k subs and he tried different and new things. One that he did that backfired but actually was really cool was an artsy video about his car. It had cool music setting the mood, little talking, nice angles in and out of the car, nice edits, and it was relatively short.

He abandoned that after seeing it did immediately get traction and got some blow back.

A lot of his early stuff was just him riding and practicing skills. I remember one video he did was how he spent his first check from YouTube on a faucet for his kitchen sink. Another was him going to a group ride to meet some big motovloggers and he got snubbed. One of my favorites was home interviewing himself. He really was just a normal motorcycle geek.

Then then list videos hit. He did that at first being cheeky and I remember we wrote to each other how that was wierd because he really did not want to do that only. But they grew and grew and then he got more daring on his rides. Touching semi trucks on the Interstate at speed, getting stopped by cops, riding way over the speed limit. He also created fake beef with a few motovloggers to leverage interest. Then a pal of his crashed out on one of rides. He calmed down for a bit but then got more out on control. Hitting the boulder by over shooting a curve. That left him unconscious and he was not the same after that. Made more poor riding choices including leading a group rode where a rider crashed out. He avoided the cops on that even though he was the organizer of the ride. That was leading up the the head on with the Porsche.

I still have the first draft of his ebook he was developing on how to make it big.

It is great he had success and fame but at the same time he did cross the line figuratively and literally. He could have easily ended up crippled or worse.

I would not want anyone on the forum to not understand where he is now is not where he always was.

 

[R-Rated]

Sorry for the trip above so back to the original issue.

Yes riding is sort of a narrow field with limited ways of presenting content. However think of it like this. Some of us have been around fellow riders long before motovlogging was a thing. We would share tales of adventure where we may have met that one hot chick, saw that one cool bike, run into that one cop, watched that cool sunrise or sunset on a trip, or even got caught in that one hellacious storm following a friend (ahem @LoneWolfer and @scooterwuf ).

So what is different between sharing stories from the road versus a motovlog? Now we can capture the actual hot chick, cool bike, cop, at sunset during a storm all on camera! Then we can share it with not just our local buddies but folks all over the globe. There are former riders that I hear from time to time that enjoy just regular ride videos.

Plus I love seeing what some wildman in Estonia is doing to get a tank bag as much as I like seeing a nut in the UK chattering away down some cow path.

So like I encourage new motovloggers, you will find your voice on how to present your adventures to all the rest of the world. Do not feel bad if you do not hit it big right away.

I met a new motovlogger at the recent demo rides. His real job gives him plenty of income but he was disheartened because he started motovlogging in hope of becoming a brand ambassador. I looked at his content. It is really great. I can only guess he was not picked because he is new to the game, white, male, and over 25 years old.

So we talked and he was baffled because his stats so far are skewing towards older males. Plus the brand he wanted to work for is not one for college kids with no money.

Point is if making the bank is what making content is about then go for the click bait title, flashy content with little meaning or value, videos of how to make money at videos on YouTube, risky stunts, and so on. But it seems from what the video is saying is - is that really being creative and different?

Seems to go right up against YouTube pushing their advice to follow trends though.

 

[Theodor]

... Now we can capture the actual hot chick, cool bike, cop, at sunset during a storm all on camera! Then we can share it with not just our local buddies but folks all over the globe. ...

One difference though. When telling a story, you have the liberty of some creative exaggeration and the listeners imagination does the work for you. If you say, "she had perfect @ss " every guy will imagine slightly different shape. But on video it is clear what it looks like.

 

[PhilTonic]

Note to self. Talk more about bottoms.

 

[R-Rated]

@Theodor and @PhilTonic easy fix if the arse is not perfect - a quick edit for a stunt arse to be used in the final cut like they do in Hollywood!

 

[scooterwuf]

One of the difference (as noted above) is that in literature, words suggest, have multiple meanings and implications.

The word rose can mean many different things in different contexts.

It can be a flower,

It can be a statement - I rose to the occasion

it can be a description - The sun rose over the ocean.

But in film or photography, images state and identify - a rose, is a rose, is a rose …

it’s when we add narrative words that we blend the uses of visual and literal languages.

I never like it when someone states that there are no more stories to be told, nothing is original, or there are only a given amount of conflict structures to tell a story, so everything has been done before. I personally think that’s BS, and that those who say that tend to be burnt out, jaded or trying to be edgy, or subversive to show how cool they are.

Sure, there are a specific amount of storytelling conflict structures - Person V Nature, Person V Society, Person V Person, Person V Self, Person V Machine, etc. … but, there are an infinite number of themes that are coupled with those conflicts which can create new and original structures.

A motovlog about two buddies competing in the Cannonball Run has one kind of story and feel if the theme is about Friendship.

It has another vibe and look if the theme is God against all, and every man for himself.

Themes can reflect music, editing style, shot choices and selection, title, fonts, color correction (or color script), and more.

Do we have themes in our motovlogs? I think unconsciously, we do, and it’s probably connected to why we do our motovlogs in the first place - curiosity, fun, exploration, discovery, or the challenge of riding. And that’s the thing about themes, they can be summed up in one word - fun, friendship, competition, or a phrase - You only have one life to live, wind therapy is the answer, etc. …

Everything we do is pretty much original, unless we are actually copying someone else. How I make a motovlog will be different than how someone else makes it even if they are about the same subject. The real challenge is to find new subjects to motovlog about, but I like that challenge, because it pushes me to ride, try new things or go out and explore.

- Wolf

 

[Drakhen99]

LOL, I started out doing regular vlogs, then tried list videos, then found that I just like recording. So I do that. If I think it's interesting, or might help someone out, I'll record it. It's worked well for me so far - I am having a lot of fun, met a lot of great people [including our own @R-Rated ] in person, and keep getting motivated to record more.

I will borrow techniques and stuff from other channels, but I always put my own spin on it. I don't edit like others, or record like others, and I think that resonates with people ... at least a few of them, anyway.

Motovlogging isn't a "quit your day job" sort of thing, but man oh man, it can be fun.

All that said, I've seen that video, and if I went full algorithm-chasing, I'd be miserable. I've seen plenty of other YTers go down that rabbit hole. No thanks.

Back to Yammie Noob - he jumped the shark so many times, I won't watch him anymore. I much prefer the more personable, relatable people. Thanks for sharing that history, @R-Rated !

-John