From R125 To R6?

twistsick

twistsick

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So I've been riding the Yamaha YZF R125 '10 for over a year now, and next year I can use a bigger bike.
My dreambike is the R1, but that is just way too big for me now (I'm 19 atm, will be 20 over a half year)
So I was thinking about the R6. But from a 125cc with 15hp to a 599cc with 120hp, I got me a bit worried about the step up. Is this step too big?
I've got 2 ticket's for speeding and 2 crashes (both lowsiders) over a year and 2-3 months. And because I'm still quite 'young and irrisponsible'. I wanted to know what other think about his, and what are you experiences with stepping up? And/or your experiences with the R6?
 
Do you trust your wrist?

Is there a 300cc if you're worried? Although if a 125 is getting you in trouble, upgrading won't reduce the trouble unless you can change your attitude and desire towards the throttle.
 
I would not suggest such a large switch. Plenty of "tamer" bikes with plenty of power out there. Try the FZ-6 maybe (tuned down R6 engine). Speed and gravity can hurt if you're not ready for it.
 
The question is, do you trust yourself with an R6? Everybody gets speeding tickets so ignoring that, why did you lowside? Were you riding outside your limits? Being a hooligan? I'm not far from 19 so I know the evils of rampant testosterone, and I would not trust my 19 year old self on an R6. That being said, an R6 is a perfectly safe motorcycle (just like 99% of motorcycles out there), it just all depends on your ability to control it and be a safe and responsible rider. It's much easier to ride outside your limits on an R6 over an R125, but that doesn't mean you can't ride an R6 within your limits.

If you're still unsure, why not go for some training, preferably track training?
 
I believe that a bigger bike doesnt mean more danger. I think its safer actually.

On a 125, you constantly racing, trying to keep speed up etc because of the lack of power. But with a 600 or higher you wont need to

make sense?
 
An R6 will be no problem. In fact it will be easier to ride than the 3 or 2 cylinder equivalents as it has far less torque at the low to mid rev range and needs to be thrashed (high rpm's) to get to its power band.
 
Have a test ride and see how you feel about it.

I don't think it will be a issue if you are sensible about what you are riding.
 
Just be careful in tricky conditions. Dont take the bike out for your first ride, during a monsoon when the roads are also covered in snot and leaves

ease into it
 
Lurch said:
Do you trust your wrist?

Is there a 300cc if you're worried? Although if a 125 is getting you in trouble, upgrading won't reduce the trouble unless you can change your attitude and desire towards the throttle.
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It got me worried because I read a lot about people that get the big sport bikes and crash it. Last thing I want is ending up in the same way. I love the bike, and the YZF R3 is too new, so too expensive for me.
 
Marbro_za said:
I believe that a bigger bike doesnt mean more danger. I think its safer actually.

On a 125, you constantly racing, trying to keep speed up etc because of the lack of power. But with a 600 or higher you wont need to

make sense?
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It does make sence, and it is true, with a 125 you really have to push it to get 90km/h (55mph) but everyone wants to go full throttle atleast onces to see what the bike got.
 
Too many speeding tickets just means you need to slow down. I had a ton of speeding violations when I was 19. There is a time and place for speed. It just takes experience for some of us to recognize it. Changing bikes won't make a difference. My car is a wimpy 4 cylinder and it can easily do 20 over any given speed limit.

As far as control, the 600 isn't going to be a raging beast. Just do yourself a favor and start slow. As in parking lot speed. Work on the drills from your motorcycle safety course and don't venture out until you're comfortable in that area. Then practice on back roads during times when traffic is light so you can get the feel for the weight and balance of the bike. That will probably be the most important difference in whether you can ride safely. I went from a tame 800cc cruiser to a 1100cc v-twin superbike and doing what I mentioned above helped me immensely.
 
BbqRider said:
The question is, do you trust yourself with an R6? Everybody gets speeding tickets so ignoring that, why did you lowside? Were you riding outside your limits? Being a hooligan? I'm not far from 19 so I know the evils of rampant testosterone, and I would not trust my 19 year old self on an R6. That being said, an R6 is a perfectly safe motorcycle (just like 99% of motorcycles out there), it just all depends on your ability to control it and be a safe and responsible rider. It's much easier to ride outside your limits on an R6 over an R125, but that doesn't mean you can't ride an R6 within your limits.

If you're still unsure, why not go for some training, preferably track training?
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If you're still unsure, why not go for some training, preferably track training?[/QUOTE]
My first time I lowside was when I was riding for a week, I was indeed riding outside my limits, which made me not make the corner. I learned my lesson by that time.
The second lowside was at a round-a-bout, I'm still not sure what went wrong, I think new tires and little gravel on the road which made my rear slide?
You can see for yourself, I was recording that time ;
Maybe you can see what went wrong?
And for the track training, I wish I could, but I don't have any oppertunity to go on a track unfortunately.. :(
 
Definitely lost traction there. Can't see why from the vid. Maybe like you said, new tires and maybe you found that one spot of oil on the entire roundabout. I always feel funny when I have brand new tires on. I'm thinking about scrubbing them with some Dawn soap and a Scotch Brite pad whenever I get new ones.
 
just drive them in, dont be flicking the bike around on new tyres.

as for the vid, Why stop it half way through the crash, it breaks the flow.
 
Doesn't matter what motorcycle you ride, or if it has 15hp or 150hp. If you don't have a built in sense of self-preservation, you will probably continue to crash.
 
I also went down in a roundabout for no apparent reason, other than being inexperienced. It happens. But the best advice is to take it slow and get to know the bike. I don't believe in "X bike is too big for Y to handle". Know your limits and ride within them, know your bike and control your throttle hand and you should have nothing except other traffic to worry about, and like Marbro said, a bigger bike will make traffic much less of an issue
 
Don't know if you have advanced motoring organisations over there, but advanced training is a real benefit to planning your ride.
 
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