Failed Mod 1... apparently.

[sstimmyy]

Got to the last two parts of the test; emergency stop and hazard avoidance. I completed the emergence stop but managed to lock my back wheel on the wet surface. Fail. The instructer wouldnt pass it even though the surface was wet and I reamined in control, I stopped very quickly and didn't swerve. Obviously I pleaded with the instructor to let me try it again ect but he was completely stubborn on his decision despite telling me I was 'obviously a good rider' and that my 'slow control was excellent' In fact he seemed very happy with everything other than the lock... His bike had ABS so maybe I should have asked to use that instead lol

On the way home I had to stop at a bike shop to get some chain lube and they all thought It was stupid that he failed me for that, all admitting that they often lock the rear on wet surfaces and that It's a fairly normal thing.

Sorry to rant but Im really hacked off at the moment. He didnt let me complete the test and do the hazard avoidance so I guess there is no chance of appealing either... Wonder how long I'll have ot wait to do it again

 

[Footle83]

Personally I agree with you. Examiners don't have any common sense when it comes to things like the emergency stop. Cause unfortunatly everything has to be done to a tee and there can't be any 'mistakes'. IMO if the bike doesnt highside and doesnt hit anything then your good. And for **** sake it's called an emergency stop your brain in reality if an actual child stepped out in front of you then you wouldn't be thinking "right, remember the MOD 1 and what to do", really instinct is just to slam the brakes on. I think the examiner should of just given you a wrap on the knucles and said go again or you stopped and thats the important thing. However as much as it pains me to say they have rules and requirements and if you don't meet them then they are in their own right to fail you, even if it is that ridiculous.

 

[Friz]

Really sorry to hear that dude.

Unfortunately that's completely ordinary.

They have to make sure you carry out each part to perfection; if you can't do it exactly right they'll fail you.
They have to be quite brutal about it.

Odd that he didn't let you complete the test though. I'm not sure whether they do that now or not, but when I did my mod 1 they carried on even if you failed something.

What's truly ridiculous is the fact that test is to make sure you're competent enough to ride on the road, and yet you went out riding on the road after failing anyway.
Our test system is ridiculous :lol:

 

[Gadgetsandwheels]

That's a shame. Time will pass quicker than you think and you soon be doing it again. My instructor used to say if it is wet mainly use your front brake and just lightly feather the back break for emergency stop. Maybe that tip will work if wet next time. You will get through ok next time. Don't dwell on the past.

 

[sstimmyy]

Personally I agree with you. Examiners don't have any common sense when it comes to things like the emergency stop. Cause unfortunatly everything has to be done to a tee and there can't be any 'mistakes'. IMO if the bike doesnt highside and doesnt hit anything then your good. And for **** sake it's called an emergency stop your brain in reality if an actual child stepped out in front of you then you wouldn't be thinking "right, remember the MOD 1 and what to do", really instinct is just to slam the brakes on. I think the examiner should of just given you a wrap on the knucles and said go again or you stopped and thats the important thing. However as much as it pains me to say they have rules and requirements and if you don't meet them then they are in their own right to fail you, even if it is that ridiculous.

See that's what I was telling him! I said that if he let me do it again Id manage it no problem... Still, you are right I guess it could get him in trouble if he let me pass but the school that ran It was Lightning motorcycles who are notorious for making people fail at the slightest thing, did my CBT with them too but at a differnet location and they wouldnt let me on the road first time haha (fair enough, although technically I could do everything, I wasn't so good on the clutch). That is how they keep their standards so high which is fair enough but annoying for learns like me Like Friz said though... I was straight back on the road afterwards and could have locked up my rear comming up to a roundabout or something so it's not like failing me has saved my life or something!

 

[sstimmyy]

Really sorry to hear that dude.

Unfortunately that's completely ordinary.

They have to make sure you carry out each part to perfection; if you can't do it exactly right they'll fail you.
They have to be quite brutal about it.

Odd that he didn't let you complete the test though. I'm not sure whether they do that now or not, but when I did my mod 1 they carried on even if you failed something.

What's truly ridiculous is the fact that test is to make sure you're competent enough to ride on the road, and yet you went out riding on the road after failing anyway.
Our test system is ridiculous :lol:

Cheers Friz, It did feel like brutality In some ways I'm glad he didn't let me finish it as then It would be more annoying if Id got the rest correct and then found out I'd failed bust still, would have made a good practice run for when I re-take.

True! It's madness. It's not like I haven't been exposing myself to death since I passed my CBT in October anyway What was cool about this morning was a conversation I had with a chap, who pulled up on a bike just like yours and was telling me all about It and how he completed his test 9 years ago and has only just started riding since then. That definitally helped to calm nerves before hand.

 

[sstimmyy]

That's a shame. Time will pass quicker than you think and you soon be doing it again. My instructor used to say if it is wet mainly use your front brake and just lightly feather the back break for emergency stop. Maybe that tip will work if wet next time. You will get through ok next time. Don't dwell on the past.

Thanks dude. I should have thought about that before hand really but I guess I pushed it a bit hard trying to make sure I stopped quickly enough I have managed to re book though before my mod 2 next tuesday! Have to travel a bit further but Im re-taking on friday afternoon... after my cage test in the morning :shock:

 

[pete86]

Where did you do your test? I passed my test when it was just 1 part. Glad i got in a few years before it changed as i'm always hearing bad things about it.

 

[sstimmyy]

Where did you do your test? I passed my test when it was just 1 part. Glad i got in a few years before it changed as i'm always hearing bad things about it.

I did it at the Kassam in Oxford mate, I haven't forgotten about our ride out plans- just been busy. Hopefully we can meet up soon though

 

[LeedsRider93]

Odd, I was told by my instructor it was okay to lock your rear tyre as long as it was corrected before you came to a stop and did not compromise safety. Don't know if you corrected it before you came to a stop though?

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[sstimmyy]

Odd, I was told by my instructor it was okay to lock your rear tyre as long as it was corrected before you came to a stop and did not compromise safety. Don't know if you corrected it before you came to a stop though?

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I'm not sure about that but I don't think I corrected it as I locked it just before I stopped, damn.

 

[thunderous71]

Odd, I was told by my instructor it was okay to lock your rear tyre as long as it was corrected before you came to a stop and did not compromise safety. Don't know if you corrected it before you came to a stop though?

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I'm not sure about that but I don't think I corrected it as I locked it just before I stopped, damn.

I did this a lot when I was learning to ride, the instructor told me to release the rear brake first just before you stop. Simple trick and safe if the breaking is under control.

 

[sstimmyy]

Odd, I was told by my instructor it was okay to lock your rear tyre as long as it was corrected before you came to a stop and did not compromise safety. Don't know if you corrected it before you came to a stop though?

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I'm not sure about that but I don't think I corrected it as I locked it just before I stopped, damn.

I did this a lot when I was learning to ride, the instructor told me to release the rear brake first just before you stop. Simple trick and safe if the breaking is under control.

Cheers dude, I'll try that when I next go out

 

[Stenno]

You're allowed to attempts at the avoidance and emergency stop if you don't hit the speed trap at 50km from what I can remember. I'm surprised it doesn't extend to locking the back wheel as well.
I did this during practice myself and I think my instructor told me to leave the back brake alone.
Good luck for next time, I think you've been harshly treated too so don't dwell on not passing!

 

[WibblesHD]

Don't use the back brake on Mod 1 you don't need it (you need to have your foot over it!), cover it and your body will do the rest. Two guys I was training with failed for locking the back / front wheel, it's understandable why, it is a planned stopped it isn't like you don't know you are going to be stopping so there is no real need to lock wheels.

 

[CurlyBlakey]

God knows how i passed my MOD 1, looking back it was terrible! I wonder if Extreme still has the footage....

But unlucky bud, better luck next time

 

[lauriejennifer]

That really sucks, dude.

In America, they make you ride around in a parking lot. Then, you can go out and buy a ZX-14, if you like.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI[/youtube]

</satirical ethnocentrism>

 

[OoxTruExoO]

When I did my mod 1 on my Derbi with knobbly tyres, it had rained. Puddles on the surface everywhere. I said to the examiner, will there be allowances made for stopping distances and locking up on the poor surface. His exact words were "That surface out there is the same in the dry as it is in the wet", to which I responded, "Why don't they make all the roads out of that type of surface then?" Think I failed the test before I even got on the bike

 

[sstimmyy]

You're allowed to attempts at the avoidance and emergency stop if you don't hit the speed trap at 50km from what I can remember. I'm surprised it doesn't extend to locking the back wheel as well.
I did this during practice myself and I think my instructor told me to leave the back brake alone.
Good luck for next time, I think you've been harshly treated too so don't dwell on not passing!

Hmm, that's interesting... going back I wish I had fought for a second chance more but at the time I was too dissapointed to start arguing properly with the instructor. Thanks

Don't use the back brake on Mod 1 you don't need it (you need to have your foot over it!), cover it and your body will do the rest. Two guys I was training with failed for locking the back / front wheel, it's understandable why, it is a planned stopped it isn't like you don't know you are going to be stopping so there is no real need to lock wheels.

I was really nervous about stopping quick enough as I didn't want to fail for slowing to slowly! haha

God knows how i passed my MOD 1, looking back it was terrible! I wonder if Extreme still has the footage....

But unlucky bud, better luck next time

Cheers dude Would be good to see that footage if he still has it haha

That really sucks, dude.

In America, they make you ride around in a parking lot. Then, you can go out and buy a ZX-14, if you like.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI[/youtube]

</satirical ethnocentrism>

Hahaha! I've seen a couple of American tutorials and it looks really easy, is it like that in all states?

When I did my mod 1 on my Derbi with knobbly tyres, it had rained. Puddles on the surface everywhere. I said to the examiner, will there be allowances made for stopping distances and locking up on the poor surface. His exact words were "That surface out there is the same in the dry as it is in the wet", to which I responded, "Why don't they make all the roads out of that type of surface then?" Think I failed the test before I even got on the bike

Haha, unlucky dude!

Well before ending this MEGA response post I just want to say thanks for all the comments, made me feel better and looking forward to my re-take on Friday!

 

[Blackops272]

Good luck for friday mate! When i done my emergency stop my instructor told me to keep my foot away from the rear brake until i started the stop or i would stamp on it, and to use progressive force on the brakes using mostly the front then releasing the front at like 5mph and under while coming to a stop.