Cancel culture, has it hit our little bubble of happiness yet?

[whingnut]

so as some of you know i am floating on a warship on the other side of the planet from my home. we currently have all soical media platforms blocked onboard. and some news outlets are blocked as well. this is done for two reasons one being OPSEC or operational security. the second is to preserve available bandwith for mission needs.

So i really didnt hear about cancel culture until last night when i was afforded the oppurtunity to speak to my wife over the phone. she was telling me about everything going on with the world as you guys know it (we havent had to deal with covid or it restrictinos being isolated like we are) and we talked out upgrades to our home pc and a laptop for me. SHe was explaining that Cancel culture is attacking a lot of different outlets on soical media and streaming platforms that she follows. some of the channels i watch for homesteading, farming, gun reviews and tests are now dead due to all the politics and 2A agruements. including the site programing being tuned to keep them off "the radar" so to speak.

She also told me about big name youtubers being shut down or being messed with to try and shut them down or just cripple thier channels. things like bot attacks and SJW / Antifa targeting.

Has this hit anything close to our happy little niche?

 

[Meifesto]

For as far as i'm aware, not just yet.
I think we aren't big enough or important enough to be a target.

Especially some of the Instagram Influencers who can start a cancel movement do it for their own profit.
Which is also why some were targetted by a cancel movement.
Next to that i also have the feeling that the movement itself isn't as strong yet in Europe.
Even better, a big movement i see of my personal FB is "make fun of the cancel movement" xD


It is something that has been going on for years, think of James Gunn who got removed as director due to tweets that were 10+ year old (and at the time perfectly fine as jokes).
So it isn't a new thing perse, but i think it is being used as a new marketing tool nowadays.

 

[R-Rated]

so as some of you know i am floating on a warship on the other side of the planet from my home. we currently have all soical media platforms blocked onboard. and some news outlets are blocked as well. this is done for two reasons one being OPSEC or operational security. the second is to preserve available bandwith for mission needs.

So i really didnt hear about cancel culture until last night when i was afforded the oppurtunity to speak to my wife over the phone. she was telling me about everything going on with the world as you guys know it (we havent had to deal with covid or it restrictinos being isolated like we are) and we talked out upgrades to our home pc and a laptop for me. SHe was explaining that Cancel culture is attacking a lot of different outlets on soical media and streaming platforms that she follows. some of the channels i watch for homesteading, farming, gun reviews and tests are now dead due to all the politics and 2A agruements. including the site programing being tuned to keep them off "the radar" so to speak.

She also told me about big name youtubers being shut down or being messed with to try and shut them down or just cripple thier channels. things like bot attacks and SJW / Antifa targeting.

Has this hit anything close to our happy little niche?

Cancel culture has been around for a while. Anyone not know of some famous person who turned out to be a sexual deviant and was thereby osteracized?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ost...akismos,ostracism was often used preemptively.

It seems folks have not kept up with history, ever changing social norms, or just want to deflect attention.

Of course, if a person has a savvy marketing sense and perhaps unscrupulous moral compass, that person could intentionally play victim of cancel culture to draw more attention since some people are drawn to an underdog.

 

[whingnut]

I do know it has been used before. what i'm getting at is it seems be used a lot more than previous years. more agressively perse. and yes i see its also being used for profit by those with loose moral compasses. but it only take one person that has an issue with a turn of phase, an opinion that differs or a why you live your life that can kill your channel. the whole if you arent us you are the enemy of us ideal seems to be more widely accepted.

 

[R-Rated]

I do know it has been used before. what i'm getting at is it seems be used a lot more than previous years. more agressively perse. and yes i see its also being used for profit by those with loose moral compasses. but it only take one person that has an issue with a turn of phase, an opinion that differs or a why you live your life that can kill your channel. the whole if you arent us you are the enemy of us ideal seems to be more widely accepted.

I would not say it has been used more or less widely. Perhaps parts of modern societies have reflected on itself which may have been long overdue depending on which side of an issue the person falls. Unfortunately, that is the way the world has always operated for almost as long as history.

Reality is there is the concept of recency bias and people can change over time. It is up to the individual to evolve and adapt. It is also up to the individual to look at anything in totality of evidence/context in order to make informed decisions.

(Sarcasm warning)
If only there were ancient text that laid out some moral foundations that people could examine and use as guide? It would be great if there were more than one and if some were developed by different peoples throughout the world. Then we could look for common themes for types of behaviors to avoid in order to coexist.

 

[LoneWolfer]

I call bullshit on it being a singular person ever getting someone keel hauled and outed with cancel culture. In almost all instances there have been issues persisting in the targets behavior/content/hypocrosy/etc. that are brought to light be multiple sources/individuals that either crash over the lines of ethical and moral behavior that is acceptable in our society or stright up break laws.

And really, you weren't aware of Louis CK, Bill Cosby, Rosanne Barr, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, R Kelly? These individuals have all been outed/canceled and some even convicted of egregious acts while others have fallen very far from where they once stood in their fields over the past five years.

And there are many others who get outed for crap behavior, actually take a look at their actions such as Taylor Swift and Aziz Ansari and make an effort to correct. Then there are others who might be too big to cancel such as Michael Jackson, Kanya and Woody Allen - yet more and more evidence and first hand accounts of them being terrible surface everyday.

As for Youtube, it's their court. their game and their rules. They don't want to push certain content then that is by all rmeans their right to run their company that way. One of those recent changes that I know hurt a few firearm/personal liberty channels (I followed some of them and at times questioned their ability to read in general but specifically the 2nd Amendment & the most recent rulings by the Supreme Court with District of Columbia v. Heller) was Youtube requiring uploads to be labeled for children or not for children. A handful of those channels went on a bunch of rants decrying that move and Youtube said - your loss since we want to help parents choose content more confidently for their kids.

And awwww waaaaaa ANTIFA and SJW's are to blame for a bunch of turd's being labeled as turds. It isn't the turd's fault! It's the fault of a bunch of unorganized, varying groups that don't want people's basic liberties removed by Fascist actions, actively out KKK members/Neo Nazi's in the hopes of stopping humans from being murdered for their skin color/religious beliefs, and uphold their responsibilities laid out in the Preamble of the Constitution. Oh and then there's the whole fact that Antifa has been around since the 1920's battling the exact same issues, with their beginings tied to fighting Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Nazi Germany. This shit of Antifa being touted as a threat to Democracy and their actions being worse than killing humans claiming Qualified Immunity, or straight up claiming a better skin color, need to stop. This continued ignorance of what Fascism is and the the importance it puts on property over human lives is telling of one's moral compass or lack there of. Oh but I forgot some turd who isn't at fault for their actions said on 4Chan that Antifa is going to go looting in some small town in Idaho that no one has ever heard of including every person on the Antifa email list. Cause that exists.

 

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[scooterwuf]

Testify!

- Wolf

 

[LandyVlad]

I'm not big on the supposedly moralistic attitude of YouTube toward entirely legal activities like legit use of firearms (and many other things).


Also re the ship - I'll think you'll find its almost entirely due to OPSEC not bandwidth
What Navy you in mate, USN?

 

[Meifesto]

With all the cancelculture, which i do have a feeling is a bit more present at the moment, maybe due to popularity, maybe because more people are stuck at home bored out their brains or maybe because media hasn't had anything else to pay attention to...
Why haven't we cancelled peta yet?

 

[motosera]

Not sure how cancel culture can be applied to Motovlogging since it's by and large pretty non-controversial. Unless any of the big channel people turn out to be involved in something dodgy or have questionable world views then I doubt it will apply.

 

[scooterwuf]

In my vids I tend to avoid social, political and/or religious topics. I ride and vlog to get away from those, but if I do bring up a topic, I try to remain objective and keep my thoughts and opinions to myself.

In my last video I had footage of a peaceful George Floyd protest in my town, and footage and pictures of boarded up shops and stores from business being closed from the pandemic, or from a riot in Philadelphia. I thought there would be some amount of blow back from that, but it wasn’t even mentioned in any of the comments, nor have I received any thumbs downs.

-Wolf

 

[whingnut]

I'm not big on the supposedly moralistic attitude of YouTube toward entirely legal activities like legit use of firearms (and many other things).


Also re the ship - I'll think you'll find its almost entirely due to OPSEC not bandwidth
What Navy you in mate, USN?

Yeah USN 21 years now

 

[Meifesto]

In my last video I had footage of a peaceful George Floyd protest in my town, and footage and pictures of boarded up shops and stores from business being closed from the pandemic, or from a riot in Philadelphia. I thought there would be some amount of blow back from that, but it wasn’t even mentioned in any of the comments, nor have I received any thumbs downs.

I mentioned it 2-4 days after it happened.
Little bit later and it become a massive political thing, arguments everywhere.
I think i'm to small to be actively noticed, and thus my content skipt through all of that.
It did get flagged by youtube, but that was easily fixed.

 

[scooterwuf]

YouTube flagged you because of the comments to your video, or because of the content?

-Wolf

 

[Meifesto]

YouTube flagged you because of the comments to your video, or because of the content?

-Wolf

Content or title i think, as all vids surrounding that topic were flagged.
Same happened to covid-19 video's in the early start of that as well.

I think it is to prevent people using it dishonestly.