Building a PC

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MysteriousVlogger

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Alright so I wanted to know if I could have a little help with this. My mate is going to build me a PC and I have been looking into what parts to buy. So far I have this. Any help appreciated. Would this go well together, is it good enough?


Motherboard: http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_S ... us_V_GENE/

Processor: http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/us/e ... proc=52214

RAM: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004QBUL1C/r ... B004QBUL1C

Hardrive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0073Q7GS8/r ... B0073Q7GS8
 
Wow do i envy you right now :P

Will it go well together? Im not 100% as i dont know that side of computers, im more software sided but just flicking through the specs it shows the motherboard will take the processor and the rest will prob just be universal plug/play
Is it good enough? Damn right it is :P
 
Depends on what kind of system you want. I will be building a top of the range system (just because I want longevity as well as performance).

Anyways my specs will be:

Asus Z77 Sabertooth (similar to the one you listed)
I7 3770k
GTX 680 (or 670)
16GB Corsair Vengeance
Intel 520 SSD 120gb
Corsair Obsidian 650D case
Corsair AS850 power supply
WD 1TB Caviar Black

+ Aftermarket heatsink and fans.

Anyways all that to say that comes in at around $1800 CAD, and is a pimped out machine.

The specs you've picked out are good, it just depends on what you are looking for - performance vs cost? a full blown gaming rig?
 
JollyRoger said:
The specs you've picked out are good, it just depends on what you are looking for - performance vs cost? a full blown gaming rig?

I want a PC that will render at a decent speed and that will have the ability to play PC games given the choice. I wouldn't be over loading it with games, the main three I would play would be CoD BF3 and Minecraft. (and that is only a maybe)
 
Theres some pretty Good Guides for Builds on KBMOD.com :) if you wanted to check that out but they are Mainly for gaming PCs allthough the people that run the site are on youtube so they render videos aswell :)
 
Hardforum is my advice, just fill out the form and ueber-geeks throw in their 2cents quickly. BTW, why a micro-ATX motherboard, is this going in a very small chassis? A fullsize usually gives you more space if you want to add a second video card at some point, and usually come with more ports and SATA connectors and the like.

I just updated my machine, and am happy with it as MicroCenter (only useful for guys here in the US) has an awesome sale till Sunday.

ASUS P8Z77-V + Intel i5-3570K for $324.98 + tax. Newegg also has a sale on Samsung 8GB kits (only 1.35v and overclocks like crazy and is really low profile) DDR3 for $40, so I picked up 16gig. Usually 8gig is plenty though, and unless extreme overclocking any old generic RAM is fine (you don't see performance differences in modern systems like you did in the day, except for on the GPU of course, so don't spend a lot of money on "performance" RAM). I also highly recommend an SSD for your boot drive, that is hopefully big enough to fit your favorite games and scratchdisk for video editing, the rest can go on a 1 to 3TB slow storage drive (whatever is cheapest and reliable, there's a 2TB WD drive on newegg or amazon on sale for $99 right now w/ code EMCNBNC37). I picked up the 256GB Samsung 830 just because it was so cheap at $190, but a 128GB one would work great too... heck even the crappiest SSDs tend to blow away the best platter drives in RAID0. The Samsung 830 and Crucial M4 are my two favorite SSDs right now because of performance AND reliability out of the box, and the 128gb version is only $90 on Newegg rightn ow for the Sammy.

Most video editing is GPU accelerated now, and of course that's numero uno much more than the processor when looking at gaming, particularly at higher resolutions. What do you have now?

You also don't want to use the stock heatsink with any intel processor, as these should overclock like mad. If you don't want to spend the money on a watercooled e80, this is hands down the best bang for the buck aircooled heatsink in existence: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus

Its only $20 right now, but check the benchmarks and the thousands of 5* reviews, its just crazy effective and affordable. The only downside is that its so tall it won't fit in some cases and might block a RAM slot if you use tall RAM (that's why I avoid any with silly heatsinks on em and go to a smaller die that are more efficient at lower voltage anyway), so double-check.
 
I used to build my machines but got tired of dealing with the hassles that inevitably show up. further I don't see any savings in building. as such I trend to just buy it and run it until it dies.

my old system was a dual xeon with 8gb of ram running 4 20" 1600x1200 displays. it is nearly 5 years old now and I have given it to the girls for mine craft.

the new system is a Dell Precision workstation: dual 6 core xeons with 16GB ram and dual 30" displays. the system is blazing fast but one of the best features is that it is totally silent. I did not realize how fucking loud the old system was.
 
You're going to want a case (an Antec 300 is just fine), a graphics card (which will depend on whether you want to game or not) and a power supply too (going to want about 600W+ from a decent brand, not a crap one). I'd seriously recommend getting an aftermarket heatsink for the CPU too, a loaded up i7 will kick out a fair bit of heat.

Be wary of going for a 2TB hard drive without having a decent back up. If it dies, you've just lost up to two terabytes of data, which, needless to say, is a lot.

What screen are you using too? There's next to no point going for a beastly graphics card if you have a crap screen. If you want to game you're going to want a decent keyboard and mouse too.

State your needs, wants and what you currently have.

BF3 is not a lightweight game at all by the way so think carefully if you actually want to play that kind of game.


Also, most importantly, BUDGET.
 
Best thing I can recommend is to go into a small, local computer repair shop, and ask if they do builds. There's no point in just looking at the top gear and say 'I'm going to get that' Quite often there's cheaper alternatives that have the same performance.

And if you get the shop to build the PC for you, it'll come with a warranty, often worth it's weight in gold.

I'm not saying that no-one should build their own PC, but the fact you are on here, asking questions means that you don't really know what to do :P
 
tweek said:
I used to build my machines but got tired of dealing with the hassles that inevitably show up. further I don't see any savings in building.
Well one savings is only upgrading what needs upgrading and when you come across a great deal.

This computer I'm on now first had a Intel Q6600, bought on sale, and run at 3.2Ghz (stock is 2.4ghz) giving it performance of chips three times the price. Swapped my Nvidia 9800GTX w/ a 4870x2 when it was on crazy sale. Then I bought more RAM, extra harddrives, and a Q9650 overclocked to 3.6Ghz, and put the Q6600 in my parents computer that had a E6850 dual core processor. Later on I replaced my 2GB ATI 4870x2 dual GPU card with two ATI 6870s and added an SSD boot drive and added a third 24" to my dual 24" setup, and again not a problem because I bought a good modular powersupply from the get-go and this Antec 900 has plenty of room. A bit later I sold one of the 24"ers, gave the other to parents, and bought a 30" single setup. Now I'm replacing the motherboard, RAM, and processor in a major upgrade but still don't have to invest in a bluray player, PSU, case, or drives AND the old equipment since its all modular you guessed it is an upgrade for a family members computer (trickle down economics yo).

Its what I tell people when they ask what one of the major advantages of a desktop over a laptop is, and that's MODULARITY which gives it way longer life. eSATA and USB3 comes out? No biggie, add a PCIe card with it. Better GPU w/ displayport come out? No problem, swap it out, no need to throw away the entire computer.

And when you buy a pre-built machine, quite often they will skimp on each and every single component that the public doesn't know to look for. Expect your powersupply to have only the connectors it needs and just enough voltage for the best card you can configure it with at the time (and perhaps only 6pin instead of 8pin option if they don't sell a card that needs 8pin), possibly no extra RAM slots for expansion, you may get an SSD or 2TB harddrive but it'll be the cheapest thing they can find, they may say they throw in 8GB of RAM but fail to mention it is ridiculously high latency cheap crap, etc. And many times they don't allow you to overclock (and if you do, the inferior components often severely limit you), which means you have to spend a LOT more money for the same performance, although granted it will run cooler and quieter.

So really there is a tremendous savings when you compare real performance (meaning benchmarks of a system a knowledgeable person built and OC'ed vs a pre-built) over the life of the machine. :mrgreen:

But I can certainly understand the appeal of a "turn-key" ready built machine with zero assembly or setup required where if it stops working six months from now, you don't have to figure out which component is bad and call ATI or Corsair or whoever, you just call Dell and say "Yo, it don't work" and they fix it.
 
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