Am I doing the wrong frame rate?

[MidwestATV]

Hey all,

So I am editing a video and it sort of just hit me that I may be doing the wrong framerate. So I jumped on here and it sounds like most people are shooting around 60fps, whereas I am shooting at 23.976 fps. This is what I have learned to shoot on for a more cinematic look. However, now transferring that to motovlogging on a helmet cam, I am worried there is too much motion for the lower framerate.

I am curious what everyone's thought on this is. Are you shooting at 60 fps because of the faster speeds? Does the video seem to capture better detail this way? The only big downer is I will have to downsize to 1080p as my Sony Action Cam does not do 4K at 60 fps....but if the video quality actually looks better I suppose its worth it.

Thanks for your input!

 

[Hippo-Drones]

I always aim for 60fps when on bike. The speed looks juddery at 30fps and distorts the image.
Off bike I often use 30fps as it captures more light.
I am currently running at 2.7k at 60fps and it looks lovely.

 

[F4celess]

23fps is def too slow for the jittery shots of a headmounted camera. Had your video been recorded on a tripod with smooth pans and dollys you it would have been pretty alright. Personally I record at 50fps because of my old camera's limitations. 30fps should be a minimum IMO.
Honestly I don't see much of a jump in quality when people record in 4K as it is usually downsized to 1080p anyway, and Youtube does it's thing with the video quality.

 

[Code4Moto]

The 60Fps is the ideal rate for motovlog rate like youve said the lighting is better at a slower rate. This can be fixed with a decent editing program where it will be hard to tell the difference in lighting.

 

[LoneWally]

I've been recording at 30fps on my Drift Ghost S as the 60fps was miss behaving for me and I haven't had any issues on that front.

 

[Javiyellow]

In my opinion, while watching youtube as long as the video resolution is 720p or above it is perfectly fine with the viewers. Not that many people stream youtube at 4k because there are plenty of mobile users not wanting to use the data and not many wifi networks can load a 4k video without being extremely choppy. I record my videos at 1080p 60fps and with motovlogging lower than 60fps will make your videos seem super shaky and choppy.

tldr: It's ok to sacrifice your 4k resolution for 60fps because smoothness outweighs super hd quality.

 

[MidwestATV]

Thanks for all the responses guys! I think I am going to up it to 30 fps, see how that looks, then decide if I should up it to 60 fps.

How about editing fps? Does anyone down regulate to 23 fps for that cinematic look or does that just end up screwing up your footage and making it look choppy again due to the speed?

 

[F4celess]

How about editing fps? Does anyone down regulate to 23 fps for that cinematic look or does that just end up screwing up your footage and making it look choppy again due to the speed?

If you bring it back to 23fps later on you just reintroduce the problem you had in the first place. Framerate is framerate, no matter where you change it. Might as well record in 60 and publish in 60. "That cinematic look" doesn't work if the image is shaky and turbulent like a headmounted camera. Do some experimentation for yourself and see what works for you.

 

[Theodor]

When rendering to a different fps, than the original footage, you will also stress your cpu. If you will divide it exactly, say from 60 to 30, so every other frame is dropped, it will not be so harsh, but calculating, which frames to drop exactly, takes up a whole lot of computer resources, while rendering. I once discovered I was shooting at 30fps, and accidentally tried to render at 25fps. My editing program crashed half way through. Estimated rendering time shown was something over 5h. When I fixed the project framerate, to match the footage framerate, rendering time dropped to under 2h.

 

[MidwestATV]

Thanks for all the responses guys! I think I am just going to have to mess around more and see what looks best. But at least I have a good starting point now. I am going to try 60 fps and see how that turns out and go from there.

I appreciate all the help here!

 

[lupin]

You should try to record as high as possible without loosing quality. That way you have more room to move in post.

What you upload at and what people watch at is a whole different story.

 

[scooterwuf]

The 24 fps rate may only achieve that cinematic look if you are projecting your work on the big screen where your audience is accustomed to watching work at that speed. On a computer screen or mobile platform a digital speed - 30 60 FPS is expected and preferred. Also, if you re doing stop-motion, traditional or tra-digital animation than a 24 frame rate is the way to go, especially on 1's.

- Wuf