How Long Should I Wait?
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Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
Of all 4 of the bikes I've owned, my Triumph America (Same as the Speedmaster) was the most comfy on long rides. I could do 1100 miles on that no worries. Second was my Harley Sportster. The Sporty isn't the most comfortable of Harleys, especially mine, because it was a 93 and they hadn't started isolation mounting the engines on that bike yet. If you wanna go long, get a Road King or a Dyna Wide Glide, or Hell, an Ultra Classic. 3rd was my Ducati Monster 750. 250 miles was about the limit before the body started complaining. I did 200 miles on a Speed Triple once and it was less comfortable than the Duc. LAst is the bike I'm on now. 100 miles, not bad. After 250, I think I'd be talking like Alvin the Chipmunk.
kuhlka
Wannabie Member
Not sure if serious or trolling.
I think you're confusing a 1000+cc Ducati superbike with a Japanese inline four cylinder. The fours are gutless and smooth down low whereas big twins have gobs of grunt and ride twitchy until you get the revs up.
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
You are certainly correct there. The inline 4s are waaay smoother down low. Inline 3s, too.
JustJosh
There is no such thing as too visible
I'm almost gonna feel like an old fogey chiming in one this one (even though I just turned 27), but I started on a 2011 FZ6r (Excellent first bike!) and owned a modded GSXR750 (that thing scared the poop outta me more than once and was about as comfortable long distance as Mr Garrison's IT Bike: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k5CbzIxNW5o/UCWfd2QwvoI/AAAAAAAAALc/HX2imab85RQ/s1600/1445zs2.png). After about 2 years, 16k miles, and 9 thousand dollars in bike payments later; I bought my used 2005.5 Yamaha FJR1300 and have never looked back. The sheer number of scenarios in which I've used the 3 massive storage cases, the heated grips, the adjustable windscreen, and the cruise control faaaar out weigh the number of times I've ever wished I had a smaller, lighter super sport bike. And it will STILL go toe to toe with a McLarren off the line if I really want to. Not to mention it's the most comfortable bike I've ridden in my life thus far (both for me and any passenger). It may not be the "sexiest" bike on the market, but what she lacks in looks she makes up for in droves of every day ride-ability/practicality.
To each his own, but I suggest you think long and hard about what YOU want in your next bike. What will you be using it for the most? What's more important: Straight line speed? "Flickability"? Acceleration? Comfort? Utility? Sex Appeal? Really think hard about WHY you want a liter bike and try riding as many as you can before you lock-in that decision because your priorities may change once you experience living with one.
At any rate, keep the rubber side down and don't forget to actually practice stopping and low-speed maneuvers at least as often as you practice high speed ones
To each his own, but I suggest you think long and hard about what YOU want in your next bike. What will you be using it for the most? What's more important: Straight line speed? "Flickability"? Acceleration? Comfort? Utility? Sex Appeal? Really think hard about WHY you want a liter bike and try riding as many as you can before you lock-in that decision because your priorities may change once you experience living with one.
At any rate, keep the rubber side down and don't forget to actually practice stopping and low-speed maneuvers at least as often as you practice high speed ones
JustJosh
There is no such thing as too visible
Also, there is no hard and fast rule about "WHEN" you are ready to handle a bigger bike. It's different for everyone and depends a LOT on how much you practice, how quickly you can master throttle control, how much self control you can utilize when learning the responsiveness of a new bike, etc. I've heard of people with a LOT of balance and self control that Started on a liter bike and been totally fine, and I've heard of people who started on a 600 and wrecked it within a day. Only you can say when you are ready to have that extra power at hand and with great power comes great responsibility.
Just remember, no matter how fast your bike is, YOU can always learn to ride better/faster/more controlled than you do now. I've been at it for 3 years now and I still try to get a little better everyday. There's ALWAYS room for improvement in one way or another.
Just remember, no matter how fast your bike is, YOU can always learn to ride better/faster/more controlled than you do now. I've been at it for 3 years now and I still try to get a little better everyday. There's ALWAYS room for improvement in one way or another.
kuhlka
Wannabie Member
When I rode a friend's older ZX-12 I was like, "Oh hell, I'm doing 120 and it feels like I'm going the speed limit. Yeaaaaaah I think I'll stick with triples and twins."
I grew up with vibey lumpy Harleys and Triumphs, so when I ride something like a Valkyrie it feels like I'm on a sofa just cruising along rather than part of the machine. The only two inline fours I'd consider buying are the crossplane crank R1s or an MV Agusta F4. Not because I NEED the speed of an F4, but because the suspension is just so gloriously sorted it's a beautiful riding experience. Makes Ducatis seem like Mr. Toad's wild ride by comparison.
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
Yeah, I had the same experience on a Triumph Speed Triple. I was used to a rumbly bumbly Ducati and I was driving down the highway and looked down and went "Oh shit!"
TheDutchTexan
Wannabie Member
I don't think one will truly find the limits of a 600 on the streets, even an older one like the f4i. Besides, a 1000 is a fair bit heavier, you'll miss the flickablity of the lighter 600's.
kuhlka
Wannabie Member
Depends on the triple. With a stock exhaust, I totally agree. The newer bikes are very smooth compared to my old 03 955i with a full Zard.
Clint Love
It doesn't say CUNT, dammit!
That one was an '05 Speed Triple 1050 with the stock pipes. Ergonomically, I liked my Duc better, but the engine was pretty smooth.
Stryfe
Just a noob riding a motorcycle
lmbao im sure they did
Runnin1ife
Wannabie Member
weight is a big thing for sure. I had a 09 shadow, 560 lbs wet, I have a 2014 ninja 650, 430 ish lbs wet, and I have a 1991 CBR1000F, 600 lbs ish wet. You will not have that heavy of a modern sport bike, but they are still not as light as a 600. The f4I does have more weight on it than the 60RR, but the seating position is a bit more relaxed as well.
I agree that you should just just ride and ride more. Dont forget to practice your basic stuff like emergency braking and the cone weave from time to time as well.
The ninja 650 is honestly lovely for all driving. It has low end torque so around city is great, it tops at like 130 MPH, so no problems going on the HWY or interstate, and it has a sport touring seating position, so I have ridden 500+ miles in a day and while I was ready to be done, I was not overly fatigued, or sore the next day.
Spencer
Wannabie Member
I suggest to let yourself enjoy the 600 and really feel out the bike, because there is no way you will be able to use the f4i to the bike's full potential before upgrading. At least a few months.
MrJoel
Rom: one-one-six unashamed
Before I got out of riding for a few years I was all about the big bikes! My last one was an 85 fj1100 that was all modded out with a 1340 kit and the guys I hung out with were all about the turbo busa's and fast liter bikes. Well, my little brother got a new F4i and let me ride it. I fell in love with that bike. As fast as 99% of any riders can handle and forgiving with any mistakes.
I say, enjoy what you have for now man.
I say, enjoy what you have for now man.
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