Zoom H1n in Backpack - Windnoise problem

Loki2W

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Hi,
I just got my Zoom H1n with this setup:
+ Put in a backpack (pic below)
+ Wrapped in 2 layer of towel: 1 big one filling the backpack (stop things moving around) and 1 to wrap the h1n
+ I tried both mic facing up and down
+ Input gain 4-5 (i got clipping at 6)
+ low pass off, limiter off, auto gain off
+ 24 bit 48khz

My problems:
+ I still have low frequency wind noise (which is very easy to remove in post, low pass ~200khz) -> so not a problem
+ high frequency wind noise, like the one where you are trying to blow directly into the mic, only happened at thigh speed -> I have 0 idea how to remove even with parametric EQ, and it's too tedious to go in and auto heal each second of the footage.
+ My audio result have very high dynamic range (which can be solve by compressing), but is there any other way to get optimum "gain" level with the h1n?

My questions:
+ What cause the "mid to high" frequency wind noise? As I put my recorder INSIDE towel, in a backpack? And how do I solve it?
+ Any tips for better setup?



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HippoDrone

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Have you tried a different backpack? If you are getting wind noise on your back it is probably bag induced, are you not able to hide the recorder under the pillion seat?
 

Drakhen99

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I use Resolve for my editing, and it's got a built-in Noise Reduction effect for audio that may work on your footage, but Hippo is probably right.

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Alex2wheel

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Hi,
I just got my Zoom H1n with this setup:
+ Put in a backpack (pic below)
+ Wrapped in 2 layer of towel: 1 big one filling the backpack (stop things moving around) and 1 to wrap the h1n
+ I tried both mic facing up and down
+ Input gain 4-5 (i got clipping at 6)
+ low pass off, limiter off, auto gain off
+ 24 bit 48khz

My problems:
+ I still have low frequency wind noise (which is very easy to remove in post, low pass ~200khz) -> so not a problem
+ high frequency wind noise, like the one where you are trying to blow directly into the mic, only happened at thigh speed -> I have 0 idea how to remove even with parametric EQ, and it's too tedious to go in and auto heal each second of the footage.
+ My audio result have very high dynamic range (which can be solve by compressing), but is there any other way to get optimum "gain" level with the h1n?

My questions:
+ What cause the "mid to high" frequency wind noise? As I put my recorder INSIDE towel, in a backpack? And how do I solve it?
+ Any tips for better setup?



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have you found a solution to this? I'm also having a similar issue.

Zoom H1n + deadcat, inside a backpack - sound is a tiny bit muffled, but more bassy which I like.. however, after a certain speed, I'm getting some sort of wind buffeting noises.

I've also tried putting the zoom h1n + deadcat under the seat - Funny enough, I don't get any wind buffeting noises there, the sound is less muffled, however, because is in such an open environment, it picks up all sort of mechanical noises from the bike, changing gears, and stuff like that.. plus a very annoying high pitched sound most likely from the exhaust.

I'm still yet to find a good solution. It seems that even the mighty Schaaf is struggling with this. If you watch this for example, plenty of wind noise there, especially around 2:01:
 
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tarmacjapa

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I'm looking for a bum bag (fanny pack) that is the perfect size for the zoom and am planning on using it for recording sound on track days. Before I used to stick it in the side pocket of my rucksack and had the gain at level 25 with a big dead cat on it. Audio is the bane of my life
 
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Drakhen99

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I'm looking for a bum bag (fanny pack) that is the perfect size for the zoom and am planning on using it for recording sound on track days. Before I used to stick it in the side pocket of my rucksack and had the gain at level 25 with a big dead cat on it. Audio is the bane of my life
Amen to that!

-John
 

Alex2wheel

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I'm looking for a bum bag (fanny pack) that is the perfect size for the zoom and am planning on using it for recording sound on track days. Before I used to stick it in the side pocket of my rucksack and had the gain at level 25 with a big dead cat on it. Audio is the bane of my life
I just bought the kriega pocket bag and it fits the zoom h1n recorder perfectly.

My last video is recorded using this setup. I seem to get less buffeting wind noise compared to when I was using my backpack.
 
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tarmacjapa

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Are you using an external mic with the Zoom? Surely connecting an external mic, disable the mics on the body of the recorder? I hope so because I bought the same Zoom....
Cant answer for him, but yes if you plug in a mic into the zoom it disables the built in mics.
 
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Alex2wheel

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Are you using an external mic with the Zoom? Surely connecting an external mic, disable the mics on the body of the recorder? I hope so because I bought the same Zoom....
Are you using an external mic with the Zoom? Surely connecting an external mic, disable the mics on the body of the recorder? I hope so because I bought the same Zoom....
why would I be using an external mic? The zoom itself already has a mic, so I don't need one. At least not for recording the sound of the bike.

If I am to record some moto vlogs, where I need to talk, then yes, I either plug the external mic into the GoPro or the zoom h1n.
 
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