Think For The Car And Yourself - Near Miss

Lurch

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Of course, which way do you swerve. If he'd not stopped as you swerved right, could have been a collision. Had you swerved left and he didn't stop, you'd have passed behind, but he did stop.

Biggest question for any rider is, could I have stopped safely in the distance?

All about planning the ride and running the what ifs.
 

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I'm gonna be fair on the driver here... I was going too quick for that road so it would have been a 50/50% in a claim.... If I didn't KO'd

That was MY choice but I forward planned as I knew it was coming.

I thnk a lot of people on bikes get KO'd because they won't go on that side of the road to be honest... Or most will target fixate which is the killer IMO
 

Lurch

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I'm gonna be fair on the driver here... I was going too quick for that road so it would have been a 50/50% in a claim.... If I didn't KO'd

That was MY choice but I forward planned as I knew it was coming.

I thnk a lot of people on bikes get KO'd because they won't go on that side of the road to be honest... Or most will target fixate which is the killer IMO
People need to realise that you can use all of the road if it's safe and legal to do so, but need to understand why and what the benefits are. Should certainly be considered as part of your B plan.
 
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My answer is YES.. Its just that he stopped so I didn't have too
This. People forget this.

How many people think about if there's any hidden turnings ahead, or that low 2 seater you can't see lower than the hedge line?
 
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low 2 seater you can't see lower than the hedge line?

Funny you say that. I took out two CBT students once. The one in front decided to red line the YBR to get past a car, probs doing 58mph, the YBR screamed like anything and I had to just let him do it, rather than shout down the radio as didn't want to put him off.

It was a sweeping road to the right, you could see for miles over the hedges....... But he didn't see the Kit Car coming the other way!!! To this day, I have no idea how he didn't end up splattered on the driver.

Needless to say, I refused to 'pass' him that day and he had to come back for another day
 

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Nice reaction, this happens to me quite frequently where I live. People just don't pay attention.


I find that if something happens a lot to a rider its not the other people who's the issue ;)

However, I'm speaking from a UK point of view, our roads are actually pretty safe and we have a LOT of marketing about looking out for bikes etc
 
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I find that if something happens a lot to a rider its not the other people who's the issue ;)

However, I'm speaking from a UK point of view, our roads are actually pretty safe and we have a LOT of marketing about looking out for bikes etc
Lol maybe my chrome isn't shiny enough. People here in the good ol' USA are usually paying too much attention to their phones. Plus most people here suffer from HUA (head up ass) disorder. Not me though, I'm the best ;).
 
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dandoolittle

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Lol maybe my chrome isn't shiny enough. People here in the good ol' USA are usually paying too much attention to their phones. Plus most people here suffer from HUA (head up ass) disorder. Not me though, I'm the best ;).

Sounds very much like the UK ha

Its only the 'ThinkBike' campaigns that I think helps here anyway. Although, I personally think the campaign makes people who ride bikes look like idiots so its made people think 'fuck off'

http://think.direct.gov.uk/motorcycles.html
 

Lurch

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Funny you say that. I took out two CBT students once. The one in front decided to red line the YBR to get past a car, probs doing 58mph, the YBR screamed like anything and I had to just let him do it, rather than shout down the radio as didn't want to put him off.

It was a sweeping road to the right, you could see for miles over the hedges....... But he didn't see the Kit Car coming the other way!!! To this day, I have no idea how he didn't end up splattered on the driver.

Needless to say, I refused to 'pass' him that day and he had to come back for another day
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1505996222766292&id=134885869877341&ref=bookmarks
 

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Good anticipation and avoidance Dan.

I'm going to view this situation from a different perspective...
Many bikers seem to forget that a vehicle (even a bike) has to look both ways to make sure its clear before pulling out. If they've looked in your direction first and you were not there yet, then while they are looking the other way you will have moved much closer but they may assume its still clear because a vehicle travelling at the speed limit would not have time to come into the danger zone.
Bikers have an advantage because they can pull away much faster than a car and have a clearer view.

A good driver/rider will quickly check both ways again to make sure its still clear and they are likely the ones who stop half way out when they see you.

So if you are going faster than the speed limit, especially on twisties, then you can expect cars to pull out in front of you because YOU are going too fast for them to see.

Of course there are definitely crap drivers and older drivers who don't look well or have slow reaction times so this makes it less likely they'll see you. Those are the really dangerous ones that won't stop.

Be careful out there...
 

dandoolittle

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So if you are going faster than the speed limit, especially on twisties, then you can expect cars to pull out in front of you because YOU are going too fast for them to see.

Which is why I've refrained from the 'cars are crap, using their phones, he tried to kill me' route -

I would say this was actually 50/50% for the reason you stated
 

dandoolittle

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Yep, I got that you are more experienced/mature to go down that route ;)

Life's too short to pass blame when there's video evidence of both parties ha

Robbie fair once again - her taking the choice to stop where she did shows she's actually a decent driver, just cocked Up
 

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