insta 360 one x2 quality?

[BikeFather]

For those who have an insta 360 one x2, are you happy with the quality?
I just got mine, and not sure if I'm doing something wrong, however, I must say I'm very very disappointed. Broad daylight, a 5k video, looks grainy, almost pixelated.

I honestly feel like I'm looking at some CCTV footage.

And especially when you have a 5k video, it should look crystal clear on smaller devices. That why sometimes people record in 4k for example, and export in 1080p, so they can afterwards be able to zoom in without the image looking pixaled. With this, the image looks pixelated as it is.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

The 5.7k is for the whole 360 video, it is not for the windowed bit you are looking at. Both GoPro and Insta360 cameras are at best 1080 when windowed. You can improve on how it looks by increasing the bitrate when you save your freecapture vids, but if only watching 360 video, that is all we can get so far until memory card write speed improves

 

[Drakhen99]

Your still here looks comparable to what I'm getting out of my GoPro Max. You may want to lower the field of vision a bit, basically like zooming out in whatever editor you got the still from.

-John

 

[Hippo-Drones]

Also, if you just use your phone, it strangles the resolution, edit it on a PC and it will be better.

 

[BikeFather]

The 5.7k is for the whole 360 video, it is not for the windowed bit you are looking at. Both GoPro and Insta360 cameras are at best 1080 when windowed. You can improve on how it looks by increasing the bitrate when you save your freecapture vids, but if only watching 360 video, that is all we can get so far until memory card write speed improves

I've tried everything, phone, PC, exporting in highest bitrate, also some people recommended exporting in ProRes. Still looked like tshit

However, what you're saying makes total sense the fact that is 5k all around, for 360. and not in a specific direction. Right... time to get that return label printed..

 

[Hippo-Drones]

To get what it sounds like you want, you'd need the professional Insta360 Titan, which I think costs around £4000

 

[BikeFather]

To get what it sounds like you want, you'd need the professional Insta360 Titan, which I think costs around £4000

No, I think it's just me, I had my expectations a bit too high, misunderstood what the specs actually are. I'm not too bothered about the 360 to be honest, I just wanted a different camera angle. It's just that I was doing some research few days/weeks ago in getting a 2nd go pro or a 360, and on the spot, the 360 sounded like a better deal, thinking that it will have the same quality as the GoPro but apparently not.

Fair enough, you compromise on quality, but you get the 360 package, however, for me the quality is more important right now. I'm happy with just a 2nd angle instead of the full 360, so I'll be returning this, and I think I;ll just go back and get a normal gopro.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

The GoPro Hero 9 with the Max Lens Mod is an alternative, it gives you some of the 360 features (horizon levelling), but is still a fixed view... but gives you the quality and resolution and FPS that you are looking for!

 

[Riderguide]

AH damn - I'm edging towards the 360 and now slightly put off ... although I'm impressed with the quality of your videos Pete, I reckon they look mint.

 

[Theodor]

I have had the x2 for a very short time. I have done couple of test videos and just the other week filmed a fishing trip, using this, as the main camera. That one will not be shared outside the family, but it gave me a better understanding of the camera. My thought so far are, that if the quality gets so low, to dissapoint, the camera is too close, or I'm editing with too narrow field of view, or the light is too low.
The camera is best for wide angle distant shots in decent light or action shots, with lots of movements, in decent light. And it is really good for capturing movement you can not predict. Lower quality footage of something interesting is better than out of frame interesting

 

[Drakhen99]

I feel the same way about the GoPro Max. I've used it for probably 10-15 hours of recording now, and used it in maybe a dozen videos. If you zoom in too far - blurry. If you're too close - blurry. There's a fine line between showing what you want to show [in my case, me] and too much around me. I mostly use it to pan to show me, then forward, tiny planet, and interesting stuff.

It's a lot of fun to play with in the editor once you get home, and can really show some neat stuff. A little blurriness is OK if you're doing our types of videos where things are always moving and you want to capture a lot without having a ton of cameras. You just have to know its limitations and work with or around them.

-John

 

[Hippo-Drones]

When I got my first 360 camera, I thought the quality was a lot lower than it was implied by others, it took me a while to learn how to get the most from them in the role I use them for. I know their limitations, and they are currently def no action camera replacement, but more than adequate for a secondary camera that gives a perspective you just can't get from any other device, people just have to get their head around the specs and what they mean. I also think that both GoPro and Insta360, as well as the other 360 camera makers, are literally "stretching" with their resolution figures. Yes, the GoPro Max can record at 5.6k and yes the Insta360 One X, One R & One X2 can record at 5.7k, but if you compare bitrate with the 1080p footage even from a GoPro Hero 5 Black, the 360 cameras are not truthfully close in quality. This is ultimately a problem with write speed to memory cards, it needs to be doubled to be able to match a current GoPro at 1080. We can do tricks to make it better though when editing the 360 footage down.

I generally record at 5.7k/30fps on my One X2 and One R (I have loaned my One X to another motovlogger so am not using that currently).
When that is windowed, it is supposedly 1080. In the past I would render it at 1080 in the Insta360 Studio and at around 60,000kbps and then upscale it to 4k or 2.7k when I mixed it with my regular GoPro helmet footage in my video editor. I now render it at 2.7k & 150,000kbps in the Insta360 Studio before adding it to my GoPro helmet footage in my video editor, this really seems to have helped keep the quality up after that second render at 2.7k, which inturn also gets me the VP9 codec on YouTube.

 

[Hippo-Drones]

In a video I have coming out next week, you can see I zoomed out just a fraction too far as the whit lines on the road are a fraction distorted, you have to not be greedy in how much you want to show, or if you want to show more, you have to be prepared to have the camera mounted further away

 

[Hippo-Drones]

Here is a screen grab from that video, you can see a slight curve on the white lines in the road to the front of the bike, this was actually a straight bit after the previous corner. Had I not got greedy, or had I extended the stick out further than the bike (which I don't like to do), this wouldn't have happened!

 

[Riderguide]

Here is a screen grab from that video, you can see a slight curve on the white lines in the road to the front of the bike, this was actually a straight bit after the previous corner. Had I not got greedy, or had I extended the stick out further than the bike (which I don't like to do), this wouldn't have happened!

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This isn't something I'd have picked up on whilst watching though. It's the angles that impress (and blue sky!) plus the colour that grabs the attention.

 

[Riderguide]

When I got my first 360 camera, I thought the quality was a lot lower than it was implied by others, it took me a while to learn how to get the most from them in the role I use them for. I know their limitations, and they are currently def no action camera replacement, but more than adequate for a secondary camera that gives a perspective you just can't get from any other device, people just have to get their head around the specs and what they mean. I also think that both GoPro and Insta360, as well as the other 360 camera makers, are literally "stretching" with their resolution figures. Yes, the GoPro Max can record at 5.6k and yes the Insta360 One X, One R & One X2 can record at 5.7k, but if you compare bitrate with the 1080p footage even from a GoPro Hero 5 Black, the 360 cameras are not truthfully close in quality. This is ultimately a problem with write speed to memory cards, it needs to be doubled to be able to match a current GoPro at 1080. We can do tricks to make it better though when editing the 360 footage down.

I generally record at 5.7k/30fps on my One X2 and One R (I have loaned my One X to another motovlogger so am not using that currently).
When that is windowed, it is supposedly 1080. In the past I would render it at 1080 in the Insta360 Studio and at around 60,000kbps and then upscale it to 4k or 2.7k when I mixed it with my regular GoPro helmet footage in my video editor. I now render it at 2.7k & 150,000kbps in the Insta360 Studio before adding it to my GoPro helmet footage in my video editor, this really seems to have helped keep the quality up after that second render at 2.7k, which inturn also gets me the VP9 codec on YouTube.

So basiclly we have to fly you out to give us a lesson on camera settings and rendering ...

 

[Hippo-Drones]

You just need to play with the cameras, in Aus you;ll get far better footage more regularly due to better weather than in ol'Blighty!

 

[Riderguide]

You just need to play with the cameras, in Aus you;ll get far better footage more regularly due to better weather than in ol'Blighty!

YEP not a day goes by when I don't realise just how lucky I am to be here! Fast approaching winter now and it gets cold at times but we still get some cracking days. This weekend is going to be in the twenties which is a bit unusual but I'll take it ;-)

 

[Moto Mengy]

I really want a 360 camera for my handlebars, but I think I'm going to wait a generation or two to let them improve a bit before I buy one.


Unless my willpower cracks of course, then I'll be buying one this summer.

 

[Drakhen99]

I really want a 360 camera for my handlebars, but I think I'm going to wait a generation or two to let them improve a bit before I buy one.


Unless my willpower cracks of course, then I'll be buying one this summer.

Dude, I *LOVE* having a 360 cam on my fairing. It just adds so much to the videos. Just buy one already

-John