UK Police & Bike Videos..

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13379R

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So, i'm a newish vlogger. Most of my content is chatting and basic vlogging stuff, however the odd wheelie or 'blast' appears in my videos, or the odd illegal over take etc.

I always add "Video sped up and edited" into the top left corner of the videos, as to have some sort of safe guard, but what are police powers when it comes to this?

I post my videos on my personal facebook page for friends to watch, they know it's me on the videos (it's obvious) but if someone was to report a video with some illegal activity in to the police how much do they have to go on? I never show my face, plate or anything like that.

If i've posted the video on my personal facebook page but never admitted to it being me in the video (obviously is to everyone else) then can police really do anything?

I realize now it's best not to post anything like that on my personal facebook, however it's past that.


I appreciate people are going to say, don't do anything illegal, i get that, but i'm not looking for them kind of comments.

Cheers.
 
A title stating "Video sped up and edited" won't do anything to save you if it's not true. In fact, it will show that you knew you were doing something illegal and attempting to mask it. But the ham-fisted attempt and posting on your own facebook page is like robbing a bank and handing over your business card as a thank you note.

If the police want to, they will do something. Putting a post about it on here is also a bit of a red flag. But there is no way of knowing whether any police can be bothered. May depend whether someone you pissed off while doing this stuff took your plate and reported you. Who knows, you may be under ongoing surveillance.

Suggestion 1: stop posting that stuff on a facebook page with your details; instead put them on a non-attributed youtube page.

Suggestion 2: find private land where you have permission and do whatever stuff you want and post it wherever you want.

Suggestion 3: don't die doing your dangerous stuff, don't hurt anyone else, and understand that people around you may get a tad pissed off.
 
Cheers gentleman.

From what i understand is that if a clip has been edited, then it can not be used as evidence, there is a stamp marked in each video that it has been edited and sped up, this proves the raw clip had been edited, and there is multiple cuts and effects etc in the videos. Is it true that as they're edited this can not be used as proof?

I'm not so much concerned about being caught, because i'm not stupid, i know if the police want to find someone, they will, it's not that difficult these days with cctv and such. I'm more concerned as to what they can use as evidence should it go to court or something like that.
 
13379R said:
Cheers gentleman.

From what i understand is that if a clip has been edited, then it can not be used as evidence, there is a stamp marked in each video that it has been edited and sped up, this proves the raw clip had been edited, and there is multiple cuts and effects etc in the videos. Is it true that as they're edited this can not be used as proof?

I'm not so much concerned about being caught, because i'm not stupid, i know if the police want to find someone, they will, it's not that difficult these days with cctv and such. I'm more concerned as to what they can use as evidence should it go to court or something like that.
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They could reasonably seize any device that belongs to you that they suspect may contain the original footage, though I think it is fair to assume that this would only occur in extreme circumstances. Remember, if you do something illegal or that endangers others and you record it then you kind of deserve it.
 
I would think it's unlikely the police will come knocking on your door unless you did something really stupid or dangerous. But if they did come and take your computer, the numerous videos of you breaking traffic laws will be used to 'prove' you are a serial offender. A judge/magistrate won't throw it out because your videos are edited.
If you speed or wheelie in a built up area or in traffic, you're more likely to get reported and also charged. Doing it in a quiet area reduces the chances of being reported, and if you were you're more likely to get a warning.
p.s. I'm not a lawyer, etc, etc.....
 
13379R said:
From what i understand is that if a clip has been edited, then it can not be used as evidence, there is a stamp marked in each video that it has been edited and sped up, this proves the raw clip had been edited, and there is multiple cuts and effects etc in the videos. Is it true that as they're edited this can not be used as proof?
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The original is still probably on your computer, even if you deleted it. 'They' can figure out pretty easily which computer uploaded the video, and then take possession of it if the offense is serious enough. A few data recovery tricks later and they may well have the original file. If they don't, they still have your computer. It doesn't matter if you post it to your own FB page, or YT, or an alias..the trail will still lead back to the network card sitting in your computer case. Your best bet against getting in trouble is simple, don't break the law on camera.

That being said, I think the chances of the police expending much effort for a minor speeding charge, or the occasional illegal pass (that doesn't result in an injury) is pretty slim. Some dumbass recently got busted here after posting a handful of videos to YT. He was running up the freeway (65/70mph speed limit) at over 150, swerving through traffic, and breaking out the occasional wheelie. You know, incredibly reckless and stupid stuff. Pretty sure he's still sitting in jail. I, on the other hand, have posted 50-100 videos of myself riding through the area, with a couple illegal passes, and almost always doing 5-10 over. I've never even considered the idea that they might come after me, and they haven't. It's all about how severe your personal disregard for the law is.
 
Oh, and one other thing, it's pretty easy to figure out if a video really has been sped up or not. A layman can tell just by watching it, but there's certain things that are dead give-aways, like how shaky the camera is, and how quickly it changes direction.
 
I live by a pretty simple rule. Ride sensibly and you'll be fine. Only time I've ever been stopped by a cop on my bike was when I was doing 30 over. I almost never do the speed limit, usually 5-10 over, sometimes a little more, and pass cops all the time. They know what sportbike riders are like, and they expect us to fudge the rules a bit, but generally they go after the guys that ride like morons.
 
13379R said:
So, i'm a newish vlogger. Most of my content is chatting and basic vlogging stuff, however the odd wheelie or 'blast' appears in my videos, or the odd illegal over take etc.
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Hey 13379r, Good to see you here as well.

I know we're both new to this game, but my couple of pence:

I enjoy your videos but I think you're entertaining enough without the wheelies and high speed. Your videos with the horses and BOAT trip are proof of that. I reckon you'll end up having more fun in the long run if you focus more on humour and discussion. My feel that the biggest danger of showboating for Youtube would be the constant pressure to up the ante with each video, then as others have said, you're potentially just building evidence against yourself.
 
I still take it on, Am really worth chasing down?

If i was on my back wheel through lanes of traffic, yeah figure out who i am and give me some new bracelets.


Doing 10-20-30 km/h over the limit, Thats not worth their time
 
According to this article by the BBC, police rely on confessions rather than evidence. If you confess to the videos you've uploaded and you told them that YOU are the rider then you won't even need a jury as you've already pleaded guilty.. If you claim you are not the rider, then they will use voice recognition technology to prove its you. Im sure this can be overturned by a jury if you claim to do voice-overs right? I would of thought so.

Link to article- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7254599.stm
 
How would they find out the videos of the person are them, like the vloggers who dont show themselfs, and my uploads arnt from a pc at my adress
 
CBRHoonigan said:
How would they find out the videos of the person are them, like the vloggers who dont show themselfs, and my uploads arnt from a pc at my adress
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Well, depending on how much info the Police can get from your video - searching the PNC for the make / model / colour of your bike and the rough geographical area would narrow things down a huge amount.
Motoring offences in the UK are also presumed to be committed by the registered keeper these days, unless they declare (and can prove) it was somebody else.
 
CBRHoonigan said:
How would they find out the videos of the person are them, like the vloggers who dont show themselfs, and my uploads arnt from a pc at my adress
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If i know where youre from, And your first name, chances are great that i can find your facebook profile.
you know when you and your friends check in places , that shows where you like going etc.


its really easy to stalk now
 
Marbro_za said:
If i know where youre from, And your first name, chances are great that i can find your facebook profile.
you know when you and your friends check in places , that shows where you like going etc.


its really easy to stalk now
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This is the truth, and it's actually overkill. All you really need to know is one or two places where the person has lived and a vague idea of their name. I recently looked up an ex, having no idea where she's at now, and not remembering the odd spelling of a very common name. Took about 20 minutes to find her.
 
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